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i'll second that notion - it simply doesn't feel like it's registering all of the inputs from your fingers, right click especially. that and the price tag - the mighty mouse (wired) costs $49. the original pro mouse cost that much, without the extra button and scroll ball but it felt very solid. the mighty mouse does not in any way feel like a $49 mouse.
that said, i still have my mighty mouse on my desk and use it often. but i primarily use a wacom so i only use the mouse when i don't feel like using the pen.
Oh i'm sorry i forgot, you must have a 10x10 resolution screen. Get real, Screens have high enough resolutions now to not even notice the pixels, so Mac fonts look better on screen. I agree 10 or 20 years ago, Windows fonts looked better, a lot better, but now? No, this is 2009 and ive got a 1080 resolution screen, why would i worry about not having enough pixels?
Depends if you follow a Platonic or an Aristotelian Philosophy on life, personally i'm with Aristotle, if i can see it, its real.
If you're worried about the fonts thing, just google for screenshots of the same web page viewed in IE and safari. You will be able to tell the difference!
I take it Macs are good then ?
depends on what do you use it for, and how much you would like to spend.
you are just making up things as each post you make, its really useless to argue with that reasoning process. Why dont you cite some credible references for a change?
I was being sarcastic as my thread seems to have gone mad
Im convinced I want one, so just waiting for the day they launch the new one.
Thanks to all the folks who have responded Much appreciated.
Im convinced I want one, so just waiting for the day they launch the new one.
Thanks to all the folks who have responded
Much appreciated.
well, how smart, you apparent doesn't even know what vista fonts looks like, and doesn't even know xp has a cleartype font smooth function.
fair comparison? yeah, as fair as every comparison ever made by GOP.
end of story? yeah, with your half bottled reality.
wait! which one is better looking on screen again?
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. Again, this is simply not true.Fonts aren't the same for both operating systems. OTF (Open Type Fonts) and TTF (True Type Fonts) are inter-changable. But Mac's can't recognise .fon (windows bitmap fonts). Also, if you work in over 30 languages developing websites as I do, then you'd realise that fonts work better in certain language on either PC or Mac as they will miss out characters and display things such as ligatures wrongly for certain arabic or cyrillic scripts on the Mac or PC.
Certain type-1 postscript fonts won't or, more accurately, work better on either PC or Mac. As a result of all this, there are programs that purport to convert a font from one format to another, though I've never had to try them as we'd purchase the neccesary one we would need for a job anyway.
For general users, developing for general latin-font website or designing brochures/posters etc etc, it shouldn't be a problem. And it's not an issue at all for almost all consumer users.
But there is a difference, small, but significant if it relates to your profession.
Let us know when you get your Mac - it will be a momentus occassion I am sure
But in all seriousness, we like hearing about new users and their experiences when they get their first mac, it's alway encouraging 
OK, I just read three pages of this thread and all I can conclude is that kastenbrust is seriously inhaling the RDF, or drinking the Kool Aid (actually it was Flavor Aid), or whatever.
Your insistence on an absolute literal interpretation of "spec for spec" reminds me of retailers that claim to offer the best prices and have price match policies "on an identical item at a competitor store". Only they conveniently fail to mention that half the products are uniquely store-branded...
By insisting that a competing machine must have the same aluminum enclosure and OS X installed (!) you are conveniently making an argument that is impossible to lose. This is like insisting that BMW offers the best car for the money, spec for spec, and challenging us to just try to price another brand of car with the exact same paint trim, rims, and "BMW" logo on it!
And on top of that you claim to offer objective opinions! Tell me, have the chocolate rations increased again this week?
To the OP: Glad you're considering a Mac, I hope you get one and enjoy it immensely. Don't kid yourself that it's "no less expensive" though. Sure, OK, on a literally spec-for-spec basis, it's "incomparable" (!), but you're paying a premium for features you probably don't need. That's not a bad thing by any stretch. The bottom line is there's a premium, but many of us feel it's absolutely worth it. Ignoring the self-delusional fanboys that froth at the mouth and insist "It's just always better! Period! No matter what!" you truly will likely find, as most of us have, that it definitely is a more pleasant experience. Not perfect, of course, but better.
Your insistence on an absolute literal interpretation of "spec for spec" reminds me of retailers that claim to offer the best prices and have price match policies "on an identical item at a competitor store". Only they conveniently fail to mention that half the products are uniquely store-branded...
By insisting that a competing machine must have the same aluminum enclosure and OS X installed (!) you are conveniently making an argument that is impossible to lose. This is like insisting that BMW offers the best car for the money, spec for spec, and challenging us to just try to price another brand of car with the exact same paint trim, rims, and "BMW" logo on it!
And on top of that you claim to offer objective opinions! Tell me, have the chocolate rations increased again this week?
To the OP: Glad you're considering a Mac, I hope you get one and enjoy it immensely. Don't kid yourself that it's "no less expensive" though. Sure, OK, on a literally spec-for-spec basis, it's "incomparable" (!), but you're paying a premium for features you probably don't need. That's not a bad thing by any stretch. The bottom line is there's a premium, but many of us feel it's absolutely worth it. Ignoring the self-delusional fanboys that froth at the mouth and insist "It's just always better! Period! No matter what!" you truly will likely find, as most of us have, that it definitely is a more pleasant experience. Not perfect, of course, but better.
I take it Macs are good then ?
Depends. I just moved on after almost 20 years:
Dwindling quality control
Nixing of matte screens
Nixing of firewire
Reintroduction of inferiour firewire chips
General catering to the iPod Crowd-only
Lack of hardware choice
OS X becoming buggier and buggier
Nixing general features in OS X
USB working slower in OS X than it does in windows for some weird effed-up reason
Tying people down unnecessarily as they buy into the reality distortion field
General annoyance of the numerous (and seemingly multiplying) incompatibilites and therefore necesary workarounds to play nice with something non-Apple.
Oh, did I mention the nixing of the firewire ports and that the ones with remaining FW-ports have been downgraded to a cheaper chipset, so it's useless to use with audio interfaces, and those damn glossy screens?
Yes, I just bought myself a Thinkpad X200s (12" with the same resolution as my 15" MBP).
okay, to the original poster:
yes all in all mac's are a better machine (but that is just my opinion). they have their pro's and they have their con's and we can argue them until the end of time. if you think you should get one because you enjoy using it and you can afford the price difference then get one, because chances are you will not regret your decision.
just please do not become one of those people who would buy junk if it had an apple logo on it. those people only give a bad name to those of us who actually enjoy some apple products. you are not defined by the products you buy, and both microsoft and apple have well made products. just buy what you know you will enjoy using.
yes all in all mac's are a better machine (but that is just my opinion). they have their pro's and they have their con's and we can argue them until the end of time. if you think you should get one because you enjoy using it and you can afford the price difference then get one, because chances are you will not regret your decision.
just please do not become one of those people who would buy junk if it had an apple logo on it. those people only give a bad name to those of us who actually enjoy some apple products. you are not defined by the products you buy, and both microsoft and apple have well made products. just buy what you know you will enjoy using.
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- MacOS is much, much, much faster - a really lot faster - to boot and to exit than Windows.[/QUOTE]
Granted, but what's the point if everything else is slower to load? Not to mention that my $1000 machine boots in 30 seconds.
As for the mouse issue, I have a very intense claw grip. If I use a mac mouse, my index and middle finger go completely up, then down again. I can see how it would be fine if you have a palm grip. As for the keyboard, I cannot use flat keyboards. They hurt my hands and I miss the keys half the time because I'm used to typing quickly from an angled keyboard.
Just my 2 cents. Not trying to start a flame war.
Granted, but what's the point if everything else is slower to load? Not to mention that my $1000 machine boots in 30 seconds.
Elaborate.
To be fair, only a moron or someone who is really doing something wrong in a very messed up way has constant system crashes.
That's your opinion. My personal opinion is that the Mac windows are irritating. They don't snap to the sides and only expand from the bottom right hand corner. I personally have my setup with Firefox taking half my screen on the right and a movie or nothing taking up the other half. It just feels weird when doing that on a mac OS, so it's personal opinion.
You're not serious, are you?
Macs are also much less wide spread and, without insulting anybody, much more idiot-friendly. That old mother who can't do anything with computers WILL have a better time with a Mac OS than a PC, because Mac holds your hand the entire way through.
As for the mouse issue, I have a very intense claw grip. If I use a mac mouse, my index and middle finger go completely up, then down again. I can see how it would be fine if you have a palm grip. As for the keyboard, I cannot use flat keyboards. They hurt my hands and I miss the keys half the time because I'm used to typing quickly from an angled keyboard.
Just my 2 cents. Not trying to start a flame war.
You just bumped a thread that was last posted in two years ago... I don't think you'll get many responses
You just bumped a thread that was last posted in two years ago... I don't think you'll get many responses
I know, I didn't see until I posted.