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I used to think this would be the kller app. But my experience of using the AVP as a virtual monitor has been mixed. The problem is that I find typing on a regular keyboard while wearing an AVP awkward.

In my view, what woudl REALLY make this a killer app is if you could combine the virtual monitor with an amazing virtual keyboard and mouse.
 
I used to think this would be the kller app. But my experience of using the AVP as a virtual monitor has been mixed. The problem is that I find typing on a regular keyboard while wearing an AVP awkward.

In my view, what woudl REALLY make this a killer app is if you could combine the virtual monitor with an amazing virtual keyboard and mouse.
Interestingly, I find typing just fine (I also really like how when in an immersive environment the keyboard is still visible). My issue is that a lot of what I use it for requires F-key presses, and I can't reliably hit those by feel--I need to look and make sure my finger is really on F6. Which works well enough, but because of the limited peripheral vision I need to tilt my head and look down instead of just glancing, which isn't ideal.

Still vastly preferable to lugging extra monitors while traveling, or finding space to put a 60" ultrawide.
 
Interestingly, I find typing just fine (I also really like how when in an immersive environment the keyboard is still visible). My issue is that a lot of what I use it for requires F-key presses, and I can't reliably hit those by feel--I need to look and make sure my finger is really on F6. Which works well enough, but because of the limited peripheral vision I need to tilt my head and look down instead of just glancing, which isn't ideal.

Still vastly preferable to lugging extra monitors while traveling, or finding space to put a 60" ultrawide.
I feel like Apple should use the “display your keyboard during a FaceTime call” feature and make it a view in the AVP you could place where you need. This way you wouldn’t have to look down to see your hands on the keyboard.
 
I feel like Apple should use the “display your keyboard during a FaceTime call” feature and make it a view in the AVP you could place where you need. This way you wouldn’t have to look down to see your hands on the keyboard.
That’s actually a really cool idea. Would look super-weird at first and take a while to get used to but it might actually work as a fix for the FOV limits.
 
That’s actually a really cool idea. Would look super-weird at first and take a while to get used to but it might actually work as a fix for the FOV limits.
The camera shows the area in front of the laptop so unless you’re using a Bluetooth keyboard in front of your laptop, th camera won’t see it.

I did get it working though. I had to use FaceTime’s “create link” function to get my devices to connect using the same Apple ID.

Also had to mute my microphones during the call, as this caused instant feedback.
 
I’ve been feeling the itch to upgrade my 2019 iMac 5K, but didn’t want to upgrade to a Studio Display because it was so similar to my 7 year old display. If I’m going to upgrade, I want something notably better, like a bigger screen, or more resolution, or HDR, or higher refresh rate. Now that Apple neglected the standard Studio Display and priced the actually upgraded Studio Display at $3299, it has me wondering whether the Vision Pro is a possible “display upgrade” alternative to a Studio Display XDR.

Is the Mac Virtual Display feature better than working on a 27 inch 5K monitor? I assume you get a ton more virtual screen size… but I’m not sure how the actual display quality is in terms of sharpness and color, or whether it’s comfortable enough to wear most of the day working from home and writing code. Anyone use that feature as their primary monitor for coding?
 
Is the Mac Virtual Display feature better than working on a 27 inch 5K monitor? I assume you get a ton more virtual screen size… but I’m not sure how the actual display quality is in terms of sharpness and color, or whether it’s comfortable enough to wear most of the day working from home and writing code. Anyone use that feature as their primary monitor for coding?
I don't use this feature as my primary monitor for coding, but I have used it for coding for hours at a time, and in any case can speak to the other questions:

"Better" is extremely subjective. But on the criteria you list:

It is not better in terms of sharpness, at least at regular viewing distances of a Retina display. I don't know exactly what the effective minimum angular pixel size works out to on the AVP's displays, but I'm confident in saying that when viewing text it is not going to be as sharp as a high-pixel-density display unless you have bad eyes.

It's interesting, because with non-text content it feels very sharp, because the color and framerate are so good, but text leaves nowhere to hide and I'd say, gut-feeling-wise, it's around what you'd get on a mid-sized 1080p monitor at regular viewing distances. Which is to say perfectly usable, but not fantastic.

Three caveats in the above statement:

One, my experience is affected somewhat by the prescription inserts (which due to astigmatism and digitally-corrected prism introduce a bit of aberration off center, something my physical glasses also have but seems a little worse on the AVP). It could be people who don't wear glasses, or have a weaker prescription, will have a better experience than me.

Two, my coding is via a Windows remote desktop session in a primitive IEC 61131 IDE that only supports black-text-on-white-background and without any anti-aliasing, which I think is about the least-forgiving environment possible, so it might be less noticeable in a better IDE with proper anti-aliasing.

And three, it's worth noting that the retina-sized pixels are absolutely real, so if you are using a very large virtual screen and you get close to it, the content remains equally good-but-not-great--it's not like what you're seeing is being downscaled out of the Mac, the issue is that there's a fundamental resolution limit to the AVP's displays.


In terms of color, the AVP has a very wide dynamic range and to my eye very good color, but I haven't tested enough non-code content on the virtual display to say how much of that is visible on the virtual display. I certainly haven't noticed any issues, at least--color wise it looks great.


In terms of comfort, that's less objective and will depend on your taste, but I'd call it good if not great. I can wear it for work for several hours at a time, for several days in a row, without it really bothering me, but it is relatively heavy and at some point just having a warm, enclosed headtset strapped to my face eventually makes my eyes kinda dry. Overall I'm fine using it for several hours a day, but 8 hours a day 5 days a week would probably be a strain, and at least I'd want to take regular breaks.

On the other hand, the fact that you can just make the virtual screen bigger and farther away is actually much more relaxing to my eyes than the distance my monitor usually is from my face; it wouldn't be practical to use a 15' wraparound ultra-wide monitor six feet away from you, but it is just a pinch away with the AVP and you can crank up the virtual environment so walls and furniture are not distracting, a HUGE boon for my small home office. My monitor literally extends several feet into the bookshelf right next to my shoulder, which has the added side effect of making the room feel bigger as well.

You'll also probably end up with a bit of a "goggle mark" on your face after a few hours. Hasn't really bothered me, but I was mildly annoyed that if I try to use the thicker face pad it complains that my eyes are too far away, so I can't although I'd like the extra padding.


As for the virtual screen size, absolutely no comparison. I have a 5K iMac one room away and didn't even consider it an option over the AVP virtual ultrawide. I could have three IDE windows side by side, an HMI, and a browser with my flowcharts in it, all at the same time, which would be absolutely unthinkable on a 27" monitor, and is in fact measurably better than the 34" extra-wide plus 24" 16:9 oriented vertically that I use at my desk at work.

At one point I was doing something that I wanted to have WAY too many windows visible at the same time so I set the thing to non-retina resolution, blew it up to the size of a wall, and ended up with so much effective screen space it was ridiculous.
 
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After a few months of regular work with the AVP I still love the Virtual Display. I use the Vision Pro with inserts and open with the Annapro, which widens the FoV and so far is the best way to use the glasses for work.
I agree that typing is strange, especially in low light conditions and the external Magic Keyboard as it is not backlit and my peripheral vision with the inserts is not sharp. In daylight that’s much better, with lenses and sans the inserts you might have no troubles at all.
Along with the regular design work in Indesign for which the large screen is a bonus, I do quite a lot of video and image editing and the screen is beautiful for that. No reflections, no smudges, just you and the image and no matter how close you get the resolution is (almost) as good as on the Studio Displays. You almost work in the artwork and photos, it’s just brillant and the colors are as acutely as on the ASDs (that is, not hardware calibrated but it works when you don’t go too bright etc.)
A backlit keyboard would be an upgrade and I wonder if having to move your head a bit more when you realllllly make the screen big is bad or maybe even good for you because you don’t stare at one point all day.
What really needs work — the AVP should re-connect automatically when you put it on again. The fact that you have to connect to the MBp again as soon as you take the glasses off is hyper annoying.
Still work to do, much room to improve inthis relatively young device — and higher resolution in upcoming years might make this superior to any regular screening the market, but even as it is, this is a kick-Ass device. Especially considering that the XDR costs almost as much.
 
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