Mac Virtual Display in VisionOS 2.2 is a GAME CHANGER!

[Oreb]

Not the original poster but I've been using a FO32U2 Pro from Gigabyte. 32" 4k QD-OLED 240Hz. It's incredible. The Apple Vision Pro could not possibly come close to that for my use case in particular. AVP is right at the mark where I can't see the individual pixels necessarily but I know they're there if that makes sense so I found coding at my typical font size was way too uncomfortable.

The only downside is the dynamic dimming the display has to do when there's a lot of bright content on the display but I got used to that after a couple days. Mini LED monitors can get brighter but I care more about the advantages of OLED over that. I won't be buying anything other than OLED displays going forward, there's no going back. The MBP needs this tech now, shame we have to wait another 2 years minimum for it. Using an OLED monitor really exposes how bad the MBP's mini LED tech is (bloom in particular).

Isn't 4k way too low for 32 inches? I briefly tried another (don't remember which one) 32"/4k monitor at the office, and gave up when I couldn't find any display settings I liked. Native resolution was too pixelated, 2560x1440 was too blurry, and 1920x1080 was way too big and didn't leave enough space for all the windows I wanted on the screen. I ended up using a Huawei MateView 28"/4.5k monitor instead. It's still a little blurry compared to the Apple Studio Display I use at home, but much better than 32"/4k.

I'd love to have a 32 inch monitor on my desk, but I think I'd need the resolution to be 6k.

 

[iAuthor]

I'm loving it, too. I did a few hours' work in it yesterday. I even set up Magnet so that I could get windows to snap into 1/6ths across the ultra wide display. I happily worked like that for three hours and only realised the sun had gone down when I took the AVP off.

It is indeed a game-changer of an upgrade. I was having to find reasons to put the AVP on after owning one for about 4 months. Not now. This is doing something virtually that I really cannot do IRL. 😊

 

[blw777]

I have to say that I completely missed this in the beginning. I had thought that the AVP was a peripheral device, not a standalone computer. So I was rather surprised when the demo didn't involve any other system. Now it turns out that this capability was around all along, but wasn't up to scratch. And now it seems to be drastically improved.

How does AVP deal with remapping mouse buttons/functionality? I do a lot of 3D CAD.

My hope is that an AVP would let me sit more comfortably than upright and leaning slightly forward all day, as I do with monitors.

 

[leifp]

Isn't 4k way too low for 32 inches? I briefly tried another (don't remember which one) 32"/4k monitor at the office, and gave up when I couldn't find any display settings I liked. Native resolution was too pixelated, 2560x1440 was too blurry, and 1920x1080 was way too big and didn't leave enough space for all the windows I wanted on the screen. I ended up using a Huawei MateView 28"/4.5k monitor instead. It's still a little blurry compared to the Apple Studio Display I use at home, but much better than 32"/4k.

I'd love to have a 32 inch monitor on my desk, but I think I'd need the resolution to be 6k.

Works fine if you’re on Windows! I have a 42” 4K OLED for my gaming rig and general computing looks great. Apple went a different direction and went hard on “retina”… so yes, 4k@32” is well below optimal (I have that on my one setup, the 27” ASD on the other) and am looking for the next gen monitors that Thunderbolt 5 will enable before jumping ship.

Perhaps Apple will release a 40” 8K or vastly improve the tech in their 32” 6K. I can be convinced to pay the premium that the XDR commands, however I expect way better tech in there. The heat and blur and bloom of the present setup (the blur is the lesser matte tech of their first generation effort) makes it a no go for me.

 

[zakarhino]

Isn't 4k way too low for 32 inches? I briefly tried another (don't remember which one) 32"/4k monitor at the office, and gave up when I couldn't find any display settings I liked. Native resolution was too pixelated, 2560x1440 was too blurry, and 1920x1080 was way too big and didn't leave enough space for all the windows I wanted on the screen. I ended up using a Huawei MateView 28"/4.5k monitor instead. It's still a little blurry compared to the Apple Studio Display I use at home, but much better than 32"/4k.

I'd love to have a 32 inch monitor on my desk, but I think I'd need the resolution to be 6k.

I see where you're coming from. It's not retina that's for sure, but 4K OLED looks a lot sharper than other expensive 4K IPS monitors I've used previously. I'm using native scaling so the text is quite small and I'm probably an outlier there because a lot of other people I come across use scaling to smooth everything out. With the distance I sit at it's just enough. I feel like what currently passes for "retina" at Apple would at this point be a nice-to-have aesthetic upgrade but not game changing.

From my perspective the experience with this 4k OLED is not too much worse than looking at my iPad Pro from a typical reading distance for that device. That's less of an endorsement of the 4k monitor and more of a want from Apple to actually raise the PPI bar for what's considered retina. My brief time with an S24 Ultra showed me that there's a noticeable difference going from the iPhone ~450PPI to ~500PPI.

My dream monitor would be OLED (or micro LED if that tech ever reaches production), over 240Hz, extreme ultrawide (the equivalent of 3 32" 4k monitors side by side like I have now), and potentially a smidge taller. Nobody makes a monitor like this now for obvious reasons.

At that point maybe I don't want a monitor at all because if some future generation of Vision Pro leapfrogs the current gen 1 resolution (I can just about see pixels), significantly increases FOV, gets rid of the foveated rendering crap (this really irritated me), and supports an even wider Mac Virtual Display mode (custom sizing?).... I basically wouldn't take that headset off, it would be a dream come true. I would take it everywhere. Battlestation in the kitchen, coffee shop, at work, when travelling -- with ZERO compromises over a physical monitor setup, only advantages. This has been my dream for years ever since VR became a mainstream thing. It will come, but not anytime soon (I would LOVE to be wrong about my timeline)

 

[Draekdude]

Has anyone had any luck using Wide or Ultra Wide with a Mac Studio? When I connect (both running the new OSs) I only get the standard display. Which still looks good, but I really want to try this out.

Thanks!

 

[lajollaguy]

is your studio on 16.2 dev 2?

 

[Draekdude]

is your studio on 16.2 dev 2?

Vision OS 2.2
Mac OS 15.1

Do you mean 15.2? I upgraded my Mac to 15.1 without even thinking about beta. If it's 15.2 I'll upgrade and give it a shot. Thanks for pointing out my over sight! I appreciate it!

EDIT. Works perfectly. Thanks so much!

 

[2128506]

But whats the difference between just buying one of those larger monitors? I don't get the hype around this tbh.

Less eye strain with the ultra wide monitor than buying an AVP.

I use Studio Display and AVP's virtual display 50/50, there is zero eye strain so far.

Even better, in AVP I can position virtual display couple of meters in front of me and make it 150 inches, which makes it easier on the eyes.