MacAir RevC or New MacPro 13"

Discussion in 'MacBook Air' started by CPPMaster, Jun 12, 2009.

  1. CPPMaster macrumors member

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    Hi all,

    I have the MacBookAir revA and I am considering an upgrade. Now I am between the RevC or the new MacBookPro 13", any toughts on that?

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  2. Tallest Skil macrumors P6

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    Thirteen inch Mac Pro?! Sounds like a mini-tower!

    The "Book" is there for a reason. ;)

    You'll see quite a change in the way video graphics are handled with the new GPU, but the rest is up to you.
     
  3. CPPMaster thread starter macrumors member

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    :) That happens when you are overseas and using the iPhone to edit.

    Thanks.

     
  4. xpovos macrumors 6502a

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    The Air is a wonderful machine, but if you go with a RevC (or a RevB for that matter), you have to be prepared for the strong possibility that your new screen will have lines and will look like crap next to your RevA display. The new 13" MBP, on the other hand, has an excellent display but you have to decide whether or not the glassy screen is going to bother you. It is highly reflective, much more so than your current Air's display. If you can get past that, which I managed to do and now like (not love) the glassy displays, it's great. The MBP also has the virtue of expandability (RAM, hard drive), making it a bit more future-proof, and that's a plus. You do lose the lovely form factor of the Air and the MBP seems heavy and chunky after you've gotten used to an Air, but the 13" is still a highly portable machine with more pros than cons vis-a-vis the Air.

    You asked for our thoughts; those are mine. As much as I love the MBA, the issue with the screens is a deal-breaker for me. I personally recommend the 13" MacBook Pro.
     
  5. Scottsdale macrumors 601

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    The 9400m in the new MBA is incredible. Supposedly it's faster than was in last MBA with 9400m. I have the new MBA 2.13 with SSD, and I love it. Finally, realize that the 9400m will only get better with Snow Leopard in a few months. And the original MBA with Intel 3100 will not support OpenCL in Snow Leopard.

    Finally, if you find that you have enough RAM in your MBA (plus the new MBA has 65% faster RAM), and you are ok with the battery, get the new MBA. If you need more memory, a longer life battery, or a built in optical drive, consider the 13" MBP.

    The display on the 13" MBP is really nice if you like glassy/glossy, and looks great for videos.

    I cannot move away from the MBA. I used a unibody MB for a month while waiting for the new MBA (as my rev B MBA was stolen), and I refuse to ever go back to that BRICK. It feels so much heavier than the MBA. The MBA is just plain fun! Snow Leopard should be a great upgrade for the MBA while still taking advantage of the same processing units just like a MBP. Snow Leopard is half the size of Leopard, runs super fast, and is included with a Mac you buy now (for the $9.99 shipping and handling).

    Good luck with whichever you buy.
     
  6. Veinticinco macrumors 6502a

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  7. CPPMaster thread starter macrumors member

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  8. Veinticinco macrumors 6502a

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    Prego. And god speed back to your country. I'm sure your xenophobia is so much more easier to deal with when you're not surrounded by 'foreigners' :rolleyes:

    My point was, and remains valid. Apologies if it came across as rude or especially intolerant, that was not really my intention. It's natural that there are peaks of activity (and new members) after an event like WWDC, but it is for everyone's benefit that this place is kept as tidy and non-repetitive as possible. Capito?
     
  9. Giancarlo macrumors newbie

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    It does not look like crap at all.... People, you are blowing this issue way out of proportions...

    Yes I agree that there are lines, faint grey horizontal lines, but hey... Overall the screen is gorgeous and those lines if and when visible, do not affect the screen quality at all...
     
  10. CPPMaster thread starter macrumors member

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    "and can not wait until be back to US", I meant of course to be back to buy the new machine, as I am based there.

    1/2 Italian here and my wife is 100% Italian :D

    Thanks, for the feedback.


     
  11. Veinticinco macrumors 6502a

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    Ah ok, I read that completely wrong then - mi dispiace ;)
     
  12. GeekGirl* macrumors 65816

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    I had the rev B and sold it due to the lines, it not right to say we are blowing it out of proportion. The screen sucks period, thats why i sold it and moved to the macbook pro.
     
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  14. Scottsdale macrumors 601

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    I noticed that when I looked at the MBP in the store on Wednesday and thought it was odd! However, I thought the 13" MBP display looked gorgeous. NONE of them looked washed out or lighter than the 15" MBP in my opinion. Are you sure you didn't just get a bad display?
     
  15. xpovos macrumors 6502a

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    Obviously a matter of opinion, but I stand by my original statement. The screen on my rev B looked horrible. The lines were faint, but the backlighting was very uneven and I couldn't get the colors right even after multiple calibrations. In a direct comparison with my unibody MacBook (one of the ones with a poor-quality screen, before the silent upgrade), 8 out of 8 people (myself included) felt that the MacBook screen was better than the MBA screen.
     
  16. Carl Abudephane, Jun 12, 2009
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  17. Scottsdale macrumors 601

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    I realized that you were talking about SATA vs SATA-II 1.5 GB vs 3 GB... and I saw that it said 1.5 G when I checked the system info about the MBP I was looking at. I noticed it said 1.5, then I checked the 15" and it said 3. The thing is, without an SSD, it will not need the extra speed transfer. An SSD would be limited by it. Apple is catering to consumers now but calling the MacBook a MacBook Pro for marketing purposes.

    How about removing the Express Card from the 15" MBP... that has to be a shock to Pros. That is useful for so many different expandability options. However, I get that less than 10% were using it, because less than 10% are true PROS. Apple is doing the right thing by moving to the consumer markets and worrying less about Pros. There is more money selling 40m Macs than 15m Macs annually... and they cannot do it at those "Pro" prices. Apple did the right thing to GROW the Mac. It had to cut costs to make all of these things happen at these prices... although I would think SATA-II vs SATA pricing is minimal difference??? How much could that controller cost, $5?
     
  18. Scottsdale macrumors 601

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    The funny thing about the 3 Gb vs 1.5Gb is the MBA is essentially faster with SSD than the new PRO 13"!!!
     
  19. Carl Abudephane, Jun 12, 2009
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  20. Veinticinco macrumors 6502a

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    Exactly. And how much more would soldering a 4GB chip onto the MBA board instead of the 2GB? $50? Clearly some decisions being taken here to cut corners just to keep the beancounters happy, whilst pissing off a small but loyal core segment of users.

    Same with the MBA display issues (BTW thanks for your Amazon explanation in the other thread - surprised the 8F is still in such recent units), just goes to show Apple are losing the plot a little, whilst no doubt cleaning up in the short term.

    Carl - thanks for sharing the SATA issue - since I've shelved a rev.C MBA due to display, I was very much focussed on the great all-round capabilities and value of the 13" MBP, but since I will never go back to HDD again, this problem is irredeemable. I am now left without an new laptop option that will make me happy.

    Going to bunker down for the long haul and await the 2010 13" MBP - which hopefully will be just today's version except in a MBA form factor with a breathtaking, maybe even OLED, display, and yes with a 3GB+ speed SATA-II 256GB SSD.
     
  21. Capt Crunch macrumors 6502

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    As my eyes are not good enough to detect the lines, if the MBA had 4 GB of RAM I would have gotten it instead of the MBP Jr.
     
  22. kinkster macrumors 6502a

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    there was one guy that claimed if you get one shipped with an ssd they give you the 3.0gbps controller, but he didn't confirm it at all so we'll have to see.
     
  23. Carl Abudephane, Jun 12, 2009
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  24. steve31 macrumors 6502a

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    Thanxs for the "heads up" 1.5 gb!!!!:eek: Why? The last Uni MB was 3.0 gb! I had one with a Intel SSD and it was crazy fast. I went to the Apple store to see what the new screens looked like on both the 2.13 MBA and new 13 inch MB and the MB still looked "washed out". The MBA with 9c90 screens still looked much better to me. I get my 2.13 MBA on Monday so my fingers are crossed.;)
     
  25. tubbymac macrumors 65816

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    Unbelievable. Apple was SO close to making an almost perfect 13 inch Macbook. They literally fixed every single complaint I have with my current unibody 13 Macbook. But then to castrate the performance of the SATA controller like that? Again they are pushing people to the more expensive MBP 15 and the Air, but this time it's a bit too blatant. That's just being cheap.
     

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