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rahulr

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First a little background:

I have a 2012 MBA 13.3 that I use as my main machine. It's been bad since my 3yo decided that it was a frisbee. I've been holding off replacing it and using a company issued surface pro 3. Which by the way is an incredible windows machine and probably the best windows machine I've ever used.

I purchased a 13.3 rMBP for my wife in March as her 2009 MBA was donated. She loves the machine and it does everything and does it incredibly. Well, she hates the new force touch trackpad, but she uses it begrudgingly.

I was set to purchase a second one as my main work/home machine. Mind you my uses aren't that power-intensive. I use office for Mac preview 2016 as my main software along with apple mail and fantastical 2. I use safari entirely unless I'm trying to watch my dodgers through VPN (stupid Time Warner), then I use chrome.

Here are my first impressions:
Looks - everyone has said enough about them. I've posted this before, but it's easily the best looking macbook ever (but my runner up was the 13.3 black macbook from a few years back).

Performance - With my use, I see no discernible drop in performance, but there is one for sure. Here's just a comparison between the 2015 rMBP and MB in file opening times:

file speed comparisons
187 mb word file
8.8 secs on MB
6.8 secs on rMBP

46 sheet excel file with macros
39.07 secs on MB
28.28 secs on rMBP

11mb ppt file laden with pictures
8.03 secs
5.93 secs

As you can see there's definitely a difference in file opening times. But, it's a couple seconds and doesn't bother me at all. There is some small stutter in Word using track changes and making massive changes, but again, as a heavy Word user, it hasn't bothered me.

The keyboard, despite what many have said, is incredible! I can type faster on this than I could on the MBA, or even the Apple Bluetooth keyboard. The keys feel great. And as you can see in my pics below, the size of the keyboard is equivalent to that of the rMBP. Moreover, the key sizes themselves are slightly bigger and with my fat fingers, that's a blessing.

Overall, I have had absolutely 0 issues with this laptop (other than the file vault setup bug which I had on the wife's rMBP).

I'm running down the battery now, and will report back the battery time.

So, these are just my first impressions after about 5 hours of usage. This will be my main machine which will be interesting.

I'll report back as often as possible, but please feel free to ask any questions:
 
First a little background:

I have a 2012 MBA 13.3 that I use as my main machine. It's been bad since my 3yo decided that it was a frisbee. I've been holding off replacing it and using a company issued surface pro 3. Which by the way is an incredible windows machine and probably the best windows machine I've ever used.

I purchased a 13.3 rMBP for my wife in March as her 2009 MBA was donated. She loves the machine and it does everything and does it incredibly. Well, she hates the new force touch trackpad, but she uses it begrudgingly.

I was set to purchase a second one as my main work/home machine. Mind you my uses aren't that power-intensive. I use office for Mac preview 2016 as my main software along with apple mail and fantastical 2. I use safari entirely unless I'm trying to watch my dodgers through VPN (stupid Time Warner), then I use chrome.

Here are my first impressions:
Looks - everyone has said enough about them. I've posted this before, but it's easily the best looking macbook ever (but my runner up was the 13.3 black macbook from a few years back).

Performance - With my use, I see no discernible drop in performance, but there is one for sure. Here's just a comparison between the 2015 rMBP and MB in file opening times:

file speed comparisons
187 mb word file
8.8 secs on MB
6.8 secs on rMBP

46 sheet excel file with macros
39.07 secs on MB
28.28 secs on rMBP

11mb ppt file laden with pictures
8.03 secs
5.93 secs

As you can see there's definitely a difference in file opening times. But, it's a couple seconds and doesn't bother me at all. There is some small stutter in Word using track changes and making massive changes, but again, as a heavy Word user, it hasn't bothered me.

The keyboard, despite what many have said, is incredible! I can type faster on this than I could on the MBA, or even the Apple Bluetooth keyboard. The keys feel great. And as you can see in my pics below, the size of the keyboard is equivalent to that of the rMBP. Moreover, the key sizes themselves are slightly bigger and with my fat fingers, that's a blessing.

Overall, I have had absolutely 0 issues with this laptop (other than the file vault setup bug which I had on the wife's rMBP).

I'm running down the battery now, and will report back the battery time.

So, these are just my first impressions after about 5 hours of usage. This will be my main machine which will be interesting.

I'll report back as often as possible, but please feel free to ask any questions:

Give us a battery runtime :)

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Sorry, i didn't mean to quote....
 
Give us a battery runtime :)

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Sorry, i didn't mean to quote....

I have to ask...what do you expect to get from people posting their battery runtime? It's pretty clear that the rMB can run for 9 hours or more, all depends on what kind of tasks you are running.
 
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Sorry forgot to post pics
 

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I have to ask...what do you expect to get from people posting their battery runtime? It's pretty clear that the rMB can run for 9 hours or more, all depends on what kind of tasks you are running.

I think it's a fair question, but you're right, I expect 9 hours. I'm going to post it here anyway, and see what happens.

I keep my battery at about 75%, so it's a bit higher than Apple's testing, but I'm blind as a bat, so I need it.
 
what is this file vault problem?
what is this? I'm kind of noob and i want to know what to expect
 
I have to ask...what do you expect to get from people posting their battery runtime? It's pretty clear that the rMB can run for 9 hours or more, all depends on what kind of tasks you are running.

An indication of whether the battery can last a day of word processing, web browsing without needing to look for a power outlet... Some reviews online have been lacking in this measurement. Especially compared to the Airs which often exceed apples indicated battery runtimes.

Apple actually states up to 9 hours WiFi and 10 hours iTunes. Real world usage can be quite different.

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I think it's a fair question, but you're right, I expect 9 hours. I'm going to post it here anyway, and see what happens.

I keep my battery at about 75%, so it's a bit higher than Apple's testing, but I'm blind as a bat, so I need it.

Awesome, I always find my display brightness is around 75% of max also... fluorescent lighting in buildings always pushes it that way, but in dim light I float around 50% of max and it can have a big effect on battery life.
 
what is this file vault problem?
what is this? I'm kind of noob and i want to know what to expect

It's silly really, but when you first setup your mac if you select file vault encryption the setup hangs for 30-40 minutes. Apple knows about it. I thought I totally screwed up my wife's computer when I first set it up, but it's an easy fix.

When you first get your MB, set it up without selecting a wifi network. It will solve the issue.
 
but if i wait those 30-40min it's ok? it's a waiting problem or a wifi select problem?
 
but if i wait those 30-40min it's ok? it's a waiting problem or a wifi select problem?

Well, considering i didn't wait the 30-40 mins, I'm not exactly sure. Apple's support page says that it fixes itself after that time. But if you don't select a wifi network you have absolutely no issues during setup, you don't have to wait, and you can turn on encryption when your MB boot up.
 
Speakers

The speakers on this thing are great. I think it's purely based on the fact that the speakers face you as opposed to the rMBP 13 where the speakers are on the bottom (I think).

Either way, the sound is clear and great. Need to try a face time to see how it goes.
 
The speakers on this thing are great. I think it's purely based on the fact that the speakers face you as opposed to the rMBP 13 where the speakers are on the bottom (I think).

Either way, the sound is clear and great. Need to try a face time to see how it goes.

Way way way better! I have to have my rMBP about 2 or 3 levels from the top. The rMB I can keep about half way.
 
Battery Life Update

4 hours and 3 minutes in:
80% brightness setting
Constant web browsing, Office 2016 usage, and 2 hours of twitch streaming

30% remaining on the battery

Pretty satisfied so far with those results
 
4 hours and 3 minutes in:
80% brightness setting
Constant web browsing, Office 2016 usage, and 2 hours of twitch streaming

30% remaining on the battery

Pretty satisfied so far with those results

Awesome, keep us posted...
 

So I'm not supposed to post my individual results because someone else posted their own individual results?

I've been a MR forum viewer for almost 7 years and I get there's a need to make sure we moderate forums to eliminate duplicate posts and minimize clutter. But, I don't think it's inappropriate to post my, again INDIVIDUAL, results.
 
So I'm not supposed to post my individual results because someone else posted their own individual results?

We don't need a new thread every time someone gets a new MacBook, its annoying. Hopefully a mod can combine them all in an official "I just got my new MacBook" thread.
 
Meh stop being mean. Personally I'm looking forward to the 28974613 different threads talking about first impressions. :D

I agree, its good to keep the threads like this separate as different people have different usage... makes things much easier to follow

Especially if the OP contributes lots to the thread of their usage and provide frequent updates
 
That seems...not good?

I wouldn't stream twitch regularly, it's just the HoW Destiny release was today and was pumped about watching that while working. So if I get 6+hours which is what it's trending towards with 4 hours of twitch streaming plus regular office work (emails, document creation/editing) I'm pretty happy.

That does equal a 9 hour day.

That's why I said I was satisfied.

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I agree, its good to keep the threads like this separate as different people have different usage... makes things much easier to follow

Especially if the OP contributes lots to the thread of their usage and provide frequent updates

I posted this in another comment thread, so I'm sorry for the repost but it deserves a little merit for my own usage needs.

Coming from a rMBP I had two issues with the palm rest. First, big, I always had to take my watch off for fear of scratching both my watch and my macbook. It is the reason why I lost a very precious heirloom in New Orleans a few years back. (I'm not bitter about it or anything).

Second, the palm rest for me, and I know I am probably doing it wrong, cut into my wrists, even on the newer beveled edges.

The palm rest on the MB is so nice. With my larger than average hands, it "ends" right at the start of my wrist. This is the first laptop I've actually used on my lap for over 3 hours without any wrist issues or discomfort.

Combined with the tactile feel of the keyboard, it's a very good machine to just type on. I've written about 45 pages of a technical manual today without any issues.
 
Battery at 1%

4 hours and 3 minutes in:
80% brightness setting
Constant web browsing, Office 2016 usage, and 2 hours of twitch streaming

30% remaining on the battery

Pretty satisfied so far with those results

Total usage today
5hours 17 minutes
Screen was 88% (I thought it was at 80%)
Constant use of MS Word, Excel, Mail, Fantastical 2, and safari
Twitch streaming of over 3 hours
scanning documents with scansnap
Dropbox sync.

This is my typical day minus the twitch streaming. I'm not over the moon about the results, I was hoping for 6 hours, but I'm not totally disappointed yet either.

I think I can get 8+ hours without twitch and the constant safari use. I will try later in the week to do that test and see what it comes back with.
 
Total usage today
5hours 17 minutes
Screen was 88% (I thought it was at 80%)
Constant use of MS Word, Excel, Mail, Fantastical 2, and safari
Twitch streaming of over 3 hours
scanning documents with scansnap
Dropbox sync.

This is my typical day minus the twitch streaming. I'm not over the moon about the results, I was hoping for 6 hours, but I'm not totally disappointed yet either.

I think I can get 8+ hours without twitch and the constant safari use. I will try later in the week to do that test and see what it comes back with.

Hats pretty high for the screen brightness. It'll definitely improve battery endurance a lot if you're able to take that down to around 65%_70%
 
Update April 26

Hi all, sorry for the delay in updates, but here are some further impressions after almost a week of testing.

UI Lag - Maybe I'm just not that observant, maybe, I'm simply a caveman, but I don't see any perceptible UI Lag. I use 3 spaces usually, (work, play, mail). Switching from one space to the next is not an issue. The only time I have a problem is when I don't fully swipe on the track pad. I'm going to try and upload a gif and see if I can show my comparison.

Keyboard - Still love it. In fact I have created a "workstation" of sorts and have switched to the apple BT keyboard and feel so slooow.

Performance - Amazing. Does everything so well. For my day-to-day use, it's the same as my 2015 rMBP.

Battery Life - Much improved. I was really worried about this as I only got 5hours and 17 minutes on my first run down. But I was using twitch and syncing dropbox. Over the weekend I got 9 hours at 70% screen brightness and moderate video viewing. On a side note, power nap seems to work better on the rMB than it did on my MBP. On the MBP when I opened the lid after a night of being closed all my emails came in at once. On the MB power nap seems to work as advertised. I'm sure this is a problem with my MBP setting and not an advancement in the MB.

Workstation - Even though I used my MB primarily on my desk or in my lounge chair working, I wanted to see if I could truly create a "workstation" without the AV adapter. So far, it's not too bad. I use an Apple TV with airplay mirroring connected to a 23" Asus monitor via HDMI. The input lag is minimal, and not noticeable when doing basic tasks. The sound works great, and haven't had a single issue with airplay dropping out and my router is two rooms away from my office. I also didn't want to use the power adapter and instead plugged a USB C cable into a built in wall charger USB. So far my battery hasn't run down at all. I don't think it's charging, but it's maintaining, which ain't too bad compared to spending $80 for a new cable/charger. I've attached pics below.
 

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