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floriano8812

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Hey,

if I compare the MBA Air M1 trackpad to the MacBook Pro 2016 13" trackpad.

The Air is too strong & loud in comparison (haptic feedback).

Can anybody relate?

Is this normal because of the different builds?
 
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I don't notice as I use 'Tap to click' , hearing the trackpad click after every press drives me mad.
 
I do use tap to click, I just tried actually clicking and really don't hear any noise at all.

MBA Air M1
 
I do use tap to click, I just tried actually clicking and really don't hear any noise at all.

MBA Air M1
And it does not feel uncomfortable if you click in the middle of the trackpad? My Air feels so strong and the Pro much softer.
 
Are you aware that you can configure the trackpad under System Preferences - Trackpad, which allows you to adjust haptic feedback among other things.
 
Are you aware that you can configure the trackpad under System Preferences - Trackpad, which allows you to adjust haptic feedback among other things.
It is already set to "light" and "no haptic feedback".
 

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And it does not feel uncomfortable if you click in the middle of the trackpad? My Air feels so strong and the Pro much softer.
Certainly not uncomfortable at all, seems really light and easy, sounds like you have a faulty unit mate.
 
Certainly not uncomfortable at all, seems really light and easy, sounds like you have a faulty unit mate.
Hm, the Air trackpad sounds a bit hollow, that makes it a bit noisier and uncomfortable to click for me.
I have to check another Air in some store.
 
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What do you guess think of the video? I don't now if it is possible to hear.

It feels like the MacBook Air's "normal" click is like a "force" click on my pro.
Normal click on pro is not so deep and softer on my finger.



 
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The answer to this is simple: they're different generations of trackpads.

For a little history...

The force touch trackpad debuted in the early 2015 MacBook Pros (and the 12" MacBook) with the gen 1 trackpad. On the original version, they could not design the haptics to generate the clicking sound, so the haptic motor only simulates the feel of the click, while the clicking sound itself is generated by a piezoelectric speaker inside the mechanism. The same type of speaker was used in prior iPods to simulate the wheel clicking sound.

In 2016 when the MBP's were redesigned, they came out with a 2nd gen version of the trackpad. The haptics were redesigned to actually generate the click sound as well as the feel. Generally this generation makes a deeper, fuller, slightly quieter clicking sound. I've also found it to be a weaker clicking feel, at least on the 13" models.

The 2018+ redesigned MacBook Air uses the original gen 1 haptics. I imagine this is because they pulled the design directly from the 12" MacBook which also did not have much space in the chassis below the trackpad, unlike the Pros which have a lot more space for a beefier mechanism.

This is all to say, your 2016 MBP had then gen 2 version, and the 2020 MBA has the gen 1 version. The gen 1 has a sharper, higher pitched click to it. But, on the plus side, unlike with your prior MBP, you can turn on "silent clicking" in trackpad settings to decrease the volume of the click. That's because the gen 2 version made the click with the mechanism so the sound literally cannot be turned off, while the gen 1 again makes the click with a speaker, so the setting is available to turn that sound off. I can see though that you've done that and you're not satisfied, unfortunately, there's nothing else you can do. You either get used to it or you switch back to a MacBook Pro.
 
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Thanks for your explanation.

If I use "silent clicking", there is absolutely no difference in the clicking sound or any sound at all.

I forgot to mention that I tested two MacBook Air's (2020) in a local electronic market and they sounded more like my MBP Pro.
 
Thanks for your explanation.

If I use "silent clicking", there is absolutely no difference in the clicking sound or any sound at all.

I forgot to mention that I tested two MacBook Air's (2020) in a local electronic market and they sounded more like my MBP Pro.
There is a difference but it is more minor than you would expect. The silent clicking feature only deactivates the high pitched part of the sound but the low pitched part remains unchanged. Be careful comparing to other computers in different acoustic environments, you might hear a difference that is not really there. I listened to your videos posted above, and they both sounded about right to me.

I've had multiple MBA's and MBP's in the last few years and I can guarantee you this unequivocally: you will never find a MacBook Air that sounds and feels with a trackpad click the same way the MacBook Pro does. They are entirely different mechanisms.
 
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I recently bought a M1 MacBook Pro and it annoys me that the Trackpad click is so loud. Silent clicking is not even offered in the settings. In comparison to my 12" MacBook, which can be silent when clicking, the sound is like three times the volume, and deeper pitched, hollow.
 
Just had to have the trackpad replaced in a M1 MBA. The top of the trackpad wouldn’t click at all and the rest of the trackpad acted as if tap to click was active even though it wasn’t. Took 4 days to get it back.
 
Just had to have the trackpad replaced in a M1 MBA. The top of the trackpad wouldn’t click at all and the rest of the trackpad acted as if tap to click was active even though it wasn’t. Took 4 days to get it back.
I'm glad it got repaired so quickly.

The described TrackPad problem in this thread though is a thing that regards all MacBooks coming new from factory and is not an official "defect" that can be repaired.
 
Hey,

if I compare the MBA Air M1 trackpad to the MacBook Pro 2016 13" trackpad.

The Air is too strong & loud in comparison (haptic feedback).

Can anybody relate?

Is this normal because of the different builds?
I have an M1 Air and the last time I worked a job where I was issued a Mac, I had the 4-port version of the 2016 MacBook Pro. Between the two, I notice no serious difference in terms of the functionality and experience using the trackpad (save for the 2016 Pro's larger surface area). I'd say my favorite iteration of it was on the Early 2015 13" MacBook Pro, but even then, my experience across all three of these is pretty consistent. Your mileage may vary?
 
Just to clarify, as an M1 Air seems to be a likely purchase, "tap to click" is still silent on new models? I never use an actual click on my old MacBook and don't want any noise or vibrations on the new one. Sorry for resurrecting the thread. Thanks.
 
Just to clarify, as an M1 Air seems to be a likely purchase, "tap to click" is still silent on new models? I never use an actual click on my old MacBook and don't want any noise or vibrations on the new one. Sorry for resurrecting the thread. Thanks.
That’s right. Tap to click is still silent 👍
 
This is basically it. my entire problem has been demonstrated in the video uploaded. It really bugs me off how the M1 MBP has a "springy" noise while the M1 MBA is a real gigachad when it comes to the trackpad feedback. I genuinely thought my battery has swollen and its the end of the universe.

But anyhow, this thread kinda relieves me since there was an explanation and that every other MBP out there sounds funky like mine.

My solution? use a BT mouse. I'm using one and it's going great.
 
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