MacBook air m2 expected date

Love-hate 🍏 relationship · Jan 23, 2022

I don't rly know what the consensus is on that , although nobody can know really .

should we at least expect something before 2023?

I'd grab a M1 rn but if the m2 launches In like 3 months id be pissed ,as I want the MBA redesign quite badly ...

resale value kinda sucks where I live sadly

Wando64 · Jan 23, 2022

Obviously I have no idea like everyone else, but it would be my guess that we would not see it until the end of the year (autumn) at the very earliest.
M1 models are now available as Apple refurbished for very good prices, so if you really need a new Mac now I think they are a good option.

Love-hate 🍏 relationship · Jan 23, 2022

Wando64 said:
Obviously I have no idea like everyone else, but it would be my guess that we would not see it until the end of the year (autumn) at the very earliest.
M1 models are now available as Apple refurbished for very good prices, so if you really need a new Mac now I think they are a good option.

what would be the trade-in value for MBA M1 base ?

no refurbished as of right now btw

Shirasaki · Jan 23, 2022

0089294 said:
what would be the trade-in value for MBA M1 base ?

no refurbished as of right now btw

Use 1/3 of the base model price as a rough guide on how much the trade-in value would do.

Love-hate 🍏 relationship · Jan 23, 2022

Shirasaki said:
Use 1/3 of the base model price as a rough guide on how much the trade-in value would do.

whoah one third only !

thanks for answer bud

lightbreakerD · Jan 23, 2022

TSMC 3nm volume production starts in 22H2, so the M2 Macbooks should be coming out in 22Q4 if there are no delays and Apple uses the new node for their A16 first.

Love-hate 🍏 relationship · Jan 23, 2022

lightbreakerD said:
TSMC 3nm volume production starts in 22H2, so the M2 Macbooks should be coming out in 22Q4 if there are no delays and Apple uses the new node for their A16 first.

seen an article about 18 months schedule,have u read it ?

true if m2 is based on a16 arch, but could as well be based.on 5nm+ a15's I suppose...

JPack · Jan 23, 2022

lightbreakerD said:
TSMC 3nm volume production starts in 22H2, so the M2 Macbooks should be coming out in 22Q4 if there are no delays and Apple uses the new node for their A16 first.

M2 is 4nm and based on A15.

Love-hate 🍏 relationship · Jan 23, 2022

JPack said:
M2 is 4nm and based on A15.

a15 is based on 5nm tho lol

JPack · Jan 23, 2022

0089294 said:
a15 is based on 5nm tho lol

N4 is a straight optical shrink. Any customer using N5 can adopt N4 without redesign.

Love-hate 🍏 relationship · Jan 23, 2022

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JPack said:
N4 is a straight optical shrink. Any customer using N5 can adopt N4 without redesign.

intersting ! have you got a link to an article on the topic ?

JPack · Jan 23, 2022

0089294 said:
intersting ! have you got a link to an article on the topic ?

You can find many just by Googling.

“N4 is a further evolution of N5 that will enable a 6% smaller die area via an optical shrink and some further power and performance advantages enabled by BEOL (back end of line) enhancements. It continues to use N5's design rules, design infrastructure, SPICE simulation programs, and IPs. Yet, N4 will use EUV scanners for more layers, which will reduce mask counts, process steps, and costs.”

TSMC to Start Risk Production Using 4nm Node in Q3

Moving forward

www.tomshardware.com

exoticSpice · Jan 23, 2022

JPack said:
M2 is 4nm and based on A15.

Well if M2 comes out in October of 2022 it will be based on A16.

JPack · Jan 23, 2022

exoticSpice said:
Well if M2 comes out in October of 2022 it will be based on A16.

Seems unlikely given the credible info we have. Gurman says M2 will have 10-core GPU, which is a 2x multiple of A15 GPU. The M1 was a 2x multiple of A14 GPU. He also reported M2 would only be "marginally faster" than M1, which is exactly what we saw with A14 vs. A15.

exoticSpice · Jan 23, 2022

mmm

JPack said:
Seems unlikely given the credible info we have. Gurman says M2 will have 10-core GPU, which is a 2x multiple of A15 GPU. The M1 was a 2x multiple of A14 GPU. He also reported M2 would only be "marginally faster" than M1, which is exactly what we saw with A14 vs. A15.

mmm. The A16 will also be based on 4nm so there could be a chance as M2 will also be on 4nm.

In any case I expect before September it will be A15 based. If M2 comes after September the successor to M1 will be A16 based.

tlab · Jan 23, 2022

exoticSpice said:
Well if M2 comes out in October of 2022 it will be based on A16.

This seems unlikely, but we can hope! The M1 Pro and Max came out after the iPhone 13 series (A15), but they have CPU cores based on the A14.

exoticSpice · Jan 23, 2022

tlab said:
This seems unlikely, but we can hope! The M1 Pro and Max came out after the iPhone 13 series (A15), but they have CPU cores based on the A14.

That's because they were expanded versions of M1. M2 will be totally new.

avxkim · Jan 24, 2022

I wonder if M2 air would have 14" instead of 13"

sierrablue · Jan 24, 2022

0089294 said:
what would be the trade-in value for MBA M1 base ?

no refurbished as of right now btw

I just checked the Apple site. It is $585 today. I bought mine on sale for $799 so it may tempt me to get the newer one but by the time it comes out who knows how much the trace in value will be.

EPO75 · Jan 24, 2022

JPack said:
M2 is 4nm and based on A15.

Says who? A15 is 5NM+ so M2 if based on A15 will be also as a new die will cost them a lot of money. M1 Pro/Max was also on the base 5NM and not on 5NM+

Just hope they base M2 on A16 as I don't see any reason why not otherwise it is gonna take a LONG time before we see actually performance increases while Intel in the meantime has launched five new cpu lines.

Love-hate 🍏 relationship · Jan 24, 2022

EPO75 said:
Says who? A15 is 5NM+ so M2 if based on A15 will be also as a new die will cost them a lot of money. M1 Pro/Max was also on the base 5NM and not on 5NM+

Just hope they base M2 on A16 as I don't see any reason why not otherwise it is gonna take a LONG time before we see actually performance increases while Intel in the meantime has launched five new cpu lines.

as an answer to your second question