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MacBook Air Suitable Montevina Chips Due Later This Year
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obviously u dont need to be agressive. All apple stores i went, i can see people looking and touching MBA more than MB and MBP. Personally, i dont like it either due to functionality and computer power. But i love its design. You are probably at the negative side, and i would say you have a wild imagination indeed lol.
the black block reminds me of dell laptopl YUCKS!
Btw, where the news on next version of MB MBP ?????!!!
So what makes you think that people just use this machine to run MS Word. People want the most powerful, fastest, and most useful computer they can get in the smallest package.
Laptops of today have more storage, are faster, and have better GPU's than ultimate diesktop pcs of ten years ago. Those desktops were used to make movie graphics, run simulations, perform 3D ray tracing, use photoshop for intensive graphic manipulation, etc.
Sure battery life is important but a modern processor architecture, faster bus speeds, better memory management, faster memory, better gpu, are equally important.
It is difficult to project 5 or 10 years into the future and see exactly what apps people will want to use on ultra portable systems. So you might as well advance the entire system because more likely than not you are going to need it.
The problem is, those who want a powerful AND portable laptop are always going to be asking for too much. There's only so much you can fit into a small laptop. Until all laptops are as small as the Air, the Air will always be behind on power and the like. Wait for Apple to make the MBP thinner, and you'll have what you want.
Also, i never look at any computers with HP sign on it. lol also DELL!
why? they can kick* macbook ass
*In specs only.
I would love to see the MBP line go lighter and slimmer. Or even a 15 in. MBA that is slightly heavier and more powerful.
Also, while it is not critical, I would love to see the pro line go anodized black aluminum like the black nanos. After 8 years of silver titanium PB, and AL PBs, I am completely sick of the brushed aluminum look. Now it just looks cheap to me.
Speed is relative
I can't agree more, 5 years ago I had a new desktop which had nearly exactly the specs of the MBA, AMD XP 1800+, 80GB, just 512MB, maybe a bit better GPU with ATI 9800, but still, that was a hell of a machine Took it for everything, from simulations, image processing etc.
So I don't get if why a MBA should be "underpowered". But then speed is relative...at least the perception thereof
I can't agree more, 5 years ago I had a new desktop which had nearly exactly the specs of the MBA, AMD XP 1800+, 80GB, just 512MB, maybe a bit better GPU with ATI 9800, but still, that was a hell of a machine
Took it for everything, from simulations, image processing etc. So I don't get if why a MBA should be "underpowered". But then speed is relative...at least the perception thereof
Apple need to sort out the pricing of the MBA. Sure it's thin, but it's significantly more expensive than the MB (esp in the UK) and is a less capable machine.
Hmm, breasts at the waist
Anyway, in general, I do like the voodoo (just wish it wasn't glossy - I hate glossy in all forms). The reason is, of course, this one would actually be useful. Not least because of the express card port and the extra USB.
Btw, to the bloke who stated that because it had a smaller footprint it must thusly have a smaller keyboard: Have you ever looked at the Airbook? There's a huge bezel. It's like saying that the 15" MBP must have a much smaller keyboard than the 17" MBP because the footprint is smaller. It isn't. It's just the footprint and bezel/speaker area that are smaller.
They are really targeted at different markets and while both are computers made by Apple, they're quite separate in their design. Even the display, while having same dimensions is an upgrade from the MB as is the keyboard and aluminum enclosure.
It would be a treat to see Apple finally perfect or improve the Air's internals and hopefully the new chips will offer an opportunity to rectify some of the Air's current shortcomings.
Yeah granted I can't find power envelopes for them either but apple wasn't forced to stick to one provider. A G6 could easily have gone into a mac pro (If you don't "stress" a mac pro's power supply what power supply would you stress) and something from pa semi into the notebooks. The mac pro would have blown the competition away, or so it seems, and the notebooks would be comparable if not better than Intels. Again, granted about all the benefits being with Intel that have been talked about a gazillion times but it's getting really really boring Apple being who they are to get the same chips that a middlebrow low cost sh it pc system with windoze vista would. I want some excitement back, and I see that a recently acquired co. has a very very good mobile chip to fit into the air, and no ones using it? What the f. is that? Of course I am sure Intel has imposed their strict intel only rules on them...
I am sure they have a copy of snow leopard in ppc too, despite the rumours to the contrary. I appreciate what you are saying of course. This are all very clear very self evident drawbacks. Compatibility is an issue, but the "compatibility myth" has been around a long time for us to see that a portion of it is myth and that transtioning one way or another is not that hard. Why not a macbook air with ppc pa semi for someone with no need to run vista, and one with intel.
Btw, shouldn't intel os x apps be interoperable with ppc osx apps, aren't the apps written on top of the os and for the os? The bottom layer of the cpu architecture should not matter unless it's some specific cpu app? Why am I wrong?
And yes, montevina has promised all that but now we get a new chip announcement with higher tdp and slightly higher clock cycle.
Well, considering most of the complaints about the MBA were that is was underpowered, I bet the new chips will be faster and not underclocked. Perhaps they could put a better battery in it or optimize some other piece of hardware such as a lower power wireless card, etc.
But I can tell you, with first hand experience, that Dell quality is crap. It used to be pretty good, but now their components are just terrible. Its all great on paper until your computer keeps failing and is always in for repairs.
Probably wouldn't go that far but it is one of the worst designs (aesthetically) Apple have produced. The one think I have really liked about the design of Apple laptops is the lack of taper in the body.
MacBooks, MBPs, and the recent PowerBooks and iBooks have all had really nice, non-tapered cases. All of a sudden, now that Apple have a tapered laptop (with nasty fold out cover to access ports), it is heralded as beautiful.
I just can't see anything other than half a 1950s style flying saucer.
It would be nice to see Apple improve the battery life on these machines, so hopefully keeping the clock speeds low will improve this.
I like the look of the Air, except for that very tick bezel around the screen - it makes it so much bigger
I like the look of the Air, except for that very tick bezel around the screen - it makes it so much bigger
The new chips will be welcome.
Since we're talking about how the Air looks... the black keys look fugly to me. I realize some people like the look a lot. I've had a black MacBook and now have a Penryn 2.5Ghz MacBook Pro. The Air looks like it has the black MacBook keys mushed onto a silver Pro like body. It doesn't work.
Since we're talking about how the Air looks... the black keys look fugly to me. I realize some people like the look a lot. I've had a black MacBook and now have a Penryn 2.5Ghz MacBook Pro. The Air looks like it has the black MacBook keys mushed onto a silver Pro like body. It doesn't work.
But who was making those complaints... primarily powerusers who the MBA isn't marketed to and wouldn't own one, unless it was a 3rd or 4th machine.
Your avg. MBA owner is a roadwarrior who uses it for Internet and M$ Office apps. The chief complaint among this group is no replaceable battery, so longer batter life would trump faster processors w/ shorter battery life. You don't need a whole lot of proc. power for your avg. businessware, but you do need bat life to work on a spreadsheet or type up a report when going cross-country or stuck in an airport w/ no power outlet around.
Also, i never look at any computers with HP sign on it. lol also DELL!
We received some HP 2510p sub-notebooks. It weighs less then the MBA and is not as wide nor as deep (being a 12.1" 4:3 display). It does not have the tapered height of the MBA, so it's a uniform 240mm vs. the 40-194mm of the MBA. It does use the ULV Core2 Duos so it is slower then the MBA, but it also draws less power.
It has a built-in DVD-RW., gigabit Ethernet, and wireless broadband access via your choice of AT&T, Sprint or Verizon. It also offers a 100GB HDD option in addition to the 80GB and 64GB SSD ones.
If it ran OS X, I'd leave my MBP at home and take it with me.
Is it possible to utilize the lower power when operating off a battery, and the higher power/faster processing when operating from an electrical power source?
I'm confused if you have to set the CPU permanently between low-power v. standard-power mode. I realize the chip can scale CPU speed based on power source, but this seems to be more involved than just speed decreases controlled by software.
I'm confused if you have to set the CPU permanently between low-power v. standard-power mode. I realize the chip can scale CPU speed based on power source, but this seems to be more involved than just speed decreases controlled by software.
Basically all modern cores and chipsets allow for the scaling of voltage, clock rate, and disabling of cores/chipsets or aspects of cores/chipsets when not in use. This all happens when in a power constrained environment (aka battery) and often isn't as aggressively done when attached to wall power.