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If apple gives everyone an OLED how will they keep milking their current lineup of small upgrades? Once the design has reached the end of the cycle they will use OLED then redesign. You will be waiting until 2032 lol.
 
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Apple has already switched to this OLED tech in the latest iPad Pro, so clearly they are already happy with the reliability of a 13" tandem OLED panel, so I'm not sure that argument holds up.
Except that an iPad Pro is not a Mac.
Also, there is an absolutely massive difference between the 13 inch display on an iPad and the MBP displays, especially comparing the 13 inch iPad to the 16.2 inch MacBook. Remember the bigger and OLED display is, especially on portable products, the harder it is to produce a completely consistent edge to edge picture with an OLED. Additionally, every different screen size and resolutions requires an entirely new supply of OLEDs, it’s not like they can just repurpose iPad displays as MacBook displays.
plus the fact that burn-in is an even bigger consideration on the Mac than it is the iPad due to a significantly higher amount of stationary elements.
Menu bar, doc, desktop icons and widgets, etc.
Price is also a major factor, the OLED display caused the iPad to go up by $200, and the 16 inch MacBook Pro is already at $2499. If they make it any more expensive we’re getting to AVP/Ultra chips level of pricing.
TLDR: they are not the same.
 
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MBA has always been hyper consumer. Average, everyday folks who see a laptop as a convenience that can go with them everywhere. It does the average job at average things and will last long enough until you feel like spending another 1k-1.5k$ on a new one.

Then we got the M processor - Now, an MBA is about as good performance-wise as a base MBP (6-month delayed of course). Now, folks actually see the MBA as 'semi-pro', but it's not. That's just a (wonderful) side-effect of the M-architecture.

In reality, the MBA is now just a much better product at the same price-point it's always been at. It's still the low-end product in an advancing product-line. It's being refreshed more often, it's lasting longer than ever (performance-wise), and now people expect or demand even more out of the base model.

How much further do we want to blur the line between consumer and pro models? MacBook Prair?

IDK, I feel like folks expect too much from the base product, but then complain that the Pro doesn't give you enough above the base product. Not saying either are unfair - I just feel like folks forget what a base product is and who the audience is. Which is fair, I've been buying my agile creatives spec'd out MBAs since the M2 came out, rather than MBPs.
 
Nah, this is great news!

OLED has major drawbacks including flickering/PWM, color consistency, long term reliability, etc.

The only advantages OLED provides is in true blacks and being thin/flexible.

as soon as I got an oled tv I wanted to upgrade all of my screens

it looks far superior

flickering/PWM is not an issue with all oled, is not limited to oled and is a non-issue for most people

colour consistency can be better, worse or the same than other display tech, it just depends on the display

long term reliability of current oled tech is, by definition, an open question for now.
 
as soon as I got an oled tv I wanted to upgrade all of my screens

it looks far superior

flickering/PWM is not an issue with all oled, is not limited to oled and is a non-issue for most people

colour consistency can be better, worse or the same than other display tech, it just depends on the display

long term reliability of current oled tech is, by definition, an open question for now.

Flickering/PWM is predominantly not an issue on OLED screens that are designed to not change brightness. Your prime example is a TV, which usually has a very limited brightness range, is designed to be set to a specific brightness that you then can color calibrate at that brightness. On a mobile device, where you are constantly changing screen brightness, it is actually a much more significant technical problem.

Sure, color consistency can be better or worse, obviously it depends on what screens you’re comparing. But color consistency is a much more difficult endeavor to accomplish on OLED than other technologies. Moreover, if color consistency is your primary goal, you would never use OLED. Just look at all the color accurate monitors that exist for professionals.

All technology has pros and cons.
 
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Faster pixel response time without increasing the refresh rate means less motion blur - and more judder. A 60hz LCD is nicer to use and scroll on compared to a 60hz OLED. I hope they take that into account. The current screen is great.
 
I can’t imagine Apple using a more advanced LCD in the MBA for only a year before moving to OLED. That likely means an OLED screen will come 2030 or later. Really, if they have better LCD screens available they should move to them ASAP.
 
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With proper implementation, no it doesn’t. It’s a mature tech now. Why aren’t people complaining about iPhone and iPad Pro screens then?
They are. There are routine complaints about poor off-axis viewing on iPhone screens, as well as color gradients from top to bottom--all evident in shared images of such screens and even on screens whose owners claim are "perfect."
 
If apple gives everyone an OLED how will they keep milking their current lineup of small upgrades? Once the design has reached the end of the cycle they will use OLED then redesign. You will be waiting until 2032 lol.
If the MBA gets OLED, there will be calls for the next display technology, microLED, then EL-QD, then whatever comes next. There is always new stuff being developed, some small upgrades, some larger.
 
The first macbook air with an oled in 2029 would be ridiculous...
Instant buy for me. I have a M1Max that I've used to basically do pretty normal things on. The M4 is as fast as a M1Max, so GG, I don't need anything more than that and I do pretty hefty web dev on it.
 
do you use the menu bar?

if you lose the notch the screen likely goes back to 16:10 and you lose the extra screen real estate where the menu bar lives
Sure, but you gain more menu bar real estate (I'm only partly joking)
 
I remember back in 2015 I left the Macbook Air camp to Macbook Pro because the screen was much nicer. Returned to the ultraportable in 2022.

Seems history will start repeating itself come 2026.
If you mean you got the Macbook Air released in July 2022, it has a better screen than the first M1 Air released in 2020. The 2020 Air has a standard Retina LED backlit IPS LCD, 13.3 inches diagonal, at 400 nits (I find it a little dim), and the 2022 has a Liquid Retina LCD (better contrast and color accuracy) at 500 nits, and it's slightly larger at 13.6 inches.

I'm guessing that might be why you waited to get the 2022 model, due it its better display?
 
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