MacBook Air With OLED Display is Still Years Away

[turbineseaplane]

I have a BENQ OLED monitor and after 3 years - I have burn in (Which became quite visible after 2 years) Most days I can ignore it, but it's particularly horrible with light Grey's, I can see UI elements that I use frequently. It's not pretty.

I'm sorry to hear that. That sucks for sure.

 

[jakey rolling]

From the website:

Display:16.0-inch, WUXGA (1920 x 1200) 16:10 aspect ratio, IPS-level Panel, Refresh Rate:60Hz refresh rate, 300nits, 45% NTSC color gamut)

You'll never see a screen like that in a MBA.

Looks like I spoke a bit too soon, though those specs don't line up with what I see on the page, either, so it's weird either way. This is what appears on the website for the $999 CAD (~$730 USD) model:

However looking closer, I think Asus is pulling a bit of a bait-and-switch on their website, because when I click "Buy Now", I get the following specs for that price:

EDIT: I apparently missed the "This price may not refer to the specifications below" text. My bad.

Still OLED and shows 600-nit peak. Also 14" and not 16".

The 120Hz display is on the top-end model which is $1699 CAD (~$1240 USD):

Either way, you're right and I take it back. Not quite a sub-$1000 laptop. But still pretty close.

 

[capamac]

The main benefit of 120hz IMO is 120/5 = 24 which is a nice touch for cinema-grade motion in movies. Get a clean 24fps w/o any funny math involved.

My new Galaxy A17 has 90hz refresh. I set it to 60hz (lowest setting) for improved battery life. What am I going to do with 90hz. Nothing, that's what. The A17 is also the first OLED display I've ever used (amoled). The blacks are black when viewed in dim lighting. In lit rooms, the blacks on my IPS Macbook Air panel look about equally black. I can see the difference when the room lights are turned off though.

But in like 5 years, the A17 display probably will have burn-in while my Air hasn't had any burn-in despite six years of daily use.

 

[gaanee]

More than OLED display, I am interested in dynamic island or hole punch for the camera display even if it's LED

 

[Mrkevinfinnerty]

People will defend Apple to the hilt on almost anything wont they.

Lets call a spade a spade, Apple know they can milk it for years offering (in some areas) inferior spec because if you want that particular OS or for one reason or another you are locked into the platform you are stuck with it.

Which is exactly, by the way, why they are so keen on locking people in and exactly why regulators should be all over it. It is very anticompetitive/anti-consumer.

 

[turbineseaplane]

I think Asus is pulling a bit of a bait-and-switch on their website

I'll show you the bait & switch to end them all!

 

[jakey rolling]

I'll show you the bait & switch to end them all!

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Also waiting for the "privacy" boot to drop when Apple decides that they can't provide effective AI and still deliver on their (already dubious) privacy promises.

 

[turbineseaplane]

Also waiting for the "privacy" boot to drop when Apple decides that they can't provide effective AI and still deliver on their (already dubious) privacy promises.

Apple Neural Privacy™️ requires iPhone 18 and higher

 

[groove-agent]

OLED screens feel like old news. They've been around for 10 years and Apple still hasn't put them in their computers yet. That being said, I don't do most of my work from my MBP screen anyway. I wait until connected to an external monitor so I'm fine not paying the premium on an OLED MBP personally.

 

[wanha]

And yet, so many of you keeps on buying Apple computers instead of going full in on Windows/Android.
Why not go to the ecosystems where you get new technology first, almost always?

perhaps you can explain the fascination with getting "new technology first"?

Apart from satisfying your curiosity, what's the actual benefit over waiting a bit longer until the "new tech" becomes more refined and user friendly?

 

[Xade]

The drip feeding of improvements means I'm getting beyond caring anymore. Instead of eagerly waiting I'll stick with what I have until it is no longer fit for purpose.

 

[lusty]

becomes more refined and user friendly?

Hardware doesn’t generally get more refined and user friendly over time, it is what it is. Software often does, although I’m not sure that’s Apple’s forté either as they rarely make progress with the OS.

 

[wanha]

Hardware doesn’t generally get more refined and user friendly over time, it is what it is. Software often does, although I’m not sure that’s Apple’s forté either as they rarely make progress with the OS.

agree on both accounts. I suppose I should have separated the two and said that HW tends to become more affordable and robust over time.

Appreciate the correction 🤝

 

[cmichaelb]

Your not comparing apples to apples.. The 4k or higher display needs to fit int a small smaller footprint.. Pixel density matters and many examples cited here aren't retina displays.. I do not see so many retina displays in most other laptops either, so the windows camp is far behind in that space..

There is also a burn in issue which is very real on oled desktop and not much of an issue on a tv with moving images.. So I suspect they want to deal with that issue more then anything else.. menu bars, docks and things like that could burn into the oled displays.. I think this is the deal breaker with apple.. phone's/watches/iPads have more changing elements vs a desktop display..

Screens auto refresh to aviod burn in.

Pixel denisty, okay, that's a good point.

 

[WalsallSaddler]

So current 60 Hz until at least 2028?

Apple, are you joking?

 

[turbineseaplane]

So current 60 Hz until at least 2028?

Apple, are you joking?

Apparently.
It's absurd.

The same basic panel that was in a MBP in 2014, TWELVE years ago.

 

[mlayer]

Racking my brain trying to remember the last time Apple offered a BTO screen tech (not glossy/matte/nano finish) option on the MacBook Pro. I think it was in 2012 with the pre-Retina MBPs where there were different resolutions. Anything since then? If not, I think it's an important marker since Cook fully took over around that time and his management style has been to reduce BTO options in the relentless pursuit of supply chain efficiency.

Let's see OLED (tandem?) supplant MiniLED and then we can start speculating on what will filter down to the MacBook Air.

 

[soundweave]

I personally don't care about this, and I doubt Apple will.
Is anyone worried about ... "anything at all" about 2019 Macbooks right now? (7 years old)
Especially non Pro models.

They can use it all to sell more AC+ subs that won't get used and just be pure profit.

2020 M1 class (air, pro, max) are still very relevant and fantastic quality, can use for a few more years at least. No slowdown felt at all on my Air, as a heavy user, no need to upgrade. So yes the screen should last a long time. That being said something like the current mini-led on the Pros trickling down would be nice, ProMotion and better contrast. OLED would be okay as long as they don't have any image retention issues, iPhone seems pretty good with that, but desktops usually have more static elements (and more screen on time daily if used for work).