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the retina has that POS glass over it. so i prefer the MBA screen by a long shot
rMBP's also have AR-coating that I believe MBA doesn't have. For my personal taste, retina display is better by a lot. at any field.
 
rMBP's also have AR-coating that I believe MBA doesn't have. For my personal taste, retina display is better by a lot. at any field.

that's b/c it hsa a piece of glass in front reflecting your image like a mirror LOL

another reason the MBA is lighter, classier and better.

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The display is not the best around but it does the job for me, my new 27" iMac screen is not that much better tbh.

I have one too and its total *****. bring back AG displays I say!
 
that's b/c it hsa a piece of glass in front reflecting your image like a mirror LOL

another reason the MBA is lighter, classier and better.

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I have one too and its total *****. bring back AG displays I say!

No, the rMBPs do not have a layer of glass over the screens. That's the cMBP you're thinking of.
 
I really love apples products, but that "always compromise" factor is killing me - new air is nearly perfect machine, except its display... If apple used ips tech, that would be awesome machine, but TN?;( (i dont think air needs retina resolution, it just needs better display technology - ips wont kill its battery life, weight advantage, it will just hurt apples margin little bit;(
 
Open up the Terminal and copy and paste this - ioreg -lw0 | grep IODisplayEDID | sed "/[^<]*</s///" | xxd -p -r | strings -6

I've just purchased a new 2013 model, with 512SSD, 8GB, i7 in the UK and received the following response - LSN133BT01A02

My 2011 MBA gives me this:
LP133WP1-TJA3
Color LCD

Any ideas what that means? Like to know if I've been living with a LG and haven't cared.
 
The 13" retina is 3.5 lbs and the next version is rumored to be lighter and thinner.

I think the choice is actually pretty stark: Buy a Retina MBP and lug around a 4.5lb laptop, or buy a display to compensate for the lack of retina display on the MBA.

The MBA is perfect for me when traveling. Problem is I'm hampered by the display - both size and resolution - when I'm hard down. The situation is exacerbated by the new iPad and the MBP-R showing us how good displays can be.

I can live with the MBA as my only machine for work and travel, as long as I have a Thunderbolt display at home. I frankly don't want to lug around a still-too-heavy MBP-R ... if I had, I'd have uprooted by 15" MBP and been happy enough with it that I'd never have considered the Air.
 
The 13" retina is 3.5 lbs and the next version is rumored to be lighter and thinner.

If you need a QC processor - and I often do - then the only choice is the 15" rMBP. If I'm going to saddle myself with a dual-core processor, I'll opt for the MBA versus the 13" rMBP. I value the portability over the screen resolution.

It doesn't really matter how wonderful the redesign will be. It's not out yet, and you can't use a machine that isn't being produced.
 
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Scott6666, yes you have an LG display.

I have one too on my new 2013 11" and I think it looks great. In fact, I was just commenting to my wife that I thought maybe Apple had changed the screen somehow, because this one looked so smooth and sharp compared to my 2011 model.

I did, just now, download the macrumors LG color profile and I do admit that it looks different. Not sure if I am going with better yet. I'll have to do some surfing and such and decide.
 
Scott6666, yes you have an LG display.

I have one too on my new 2013 11" and I think it looks great. In fact, I was just commenting to my wife that I thought maybe Apple had changed the screen somehow, because this one looked so smooth and sharp compared to my 2011 model.

I did, just now, download the macrumors LG color profile and I do admit that it looks different. Not sure if I am going with better yet. I'll have to do some surfing and such and decide.

Thanks for the info!

Now I know I should have been disappointed for the past 2 years when instead I was fooling myself thinking the screen was absolutely fine. :D
 
Scott6666, yes you have an LG display.

I have one too on my new 2013 11" and I think it looks great. In fact, I was just commenting to my wife that I thought maybe Apple had changed the screen somehow, because this one looked so smooth and sharp compared to my 2011 model.

I did, just now, download the macrumors LG color profile and I do admit that it looks different. Not sure if I am going with better yet. I'll have to do some surfing and such and decide.

I've got an LG display too and I think it looks terrific. Even better than my Dell IPS 24" panel. lol
 
that's b/c it hsa a piece of glass in front reflecting your image like a mirror LOL

another reason the MBA is lighter, classier and better.

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I have one too and its total *****. bring back AG displays I say!

Faboyism doesn't really help anything. The air has benefits and so does the rMBP. The air is cheaper, thinner in places, lighter, lasts longer, and very portable. The rMBP is more powerful, way way better screen(no use trying to argue it), and has a beautiful design.
 
the air is good, the pro is better though. ive got both and like both for different reasons
 
Is this a joke? or are you delusional?

Mobility and battery life are the two most important things for MBA users. You want a retina display? go buy a rMBP. The 2013 MBA is equipped with the latest processor and wifi technology. It also boasts a huge improvement in SSD speed and battery life.

That guy is clearly delusional.
 
Faboyism doesn't really help anything. The air has benefits and so does the rMBP. The air is cheaper, thinner in places, lighter, lasts longer, and very portable. The rMBP is more powerful, way way better screen(no use trying to argue it), and has a beautiful design.

It's not fanboyism. Clearly doesn't function when you have a reflecting piece of glass. Better suited for watching movies then doing real work. Maybe that's why  caved in and offered an AG option as BTO, last time I looked.
 
In all the extensive reviews I've read about the MacBook Air, the only thing they've ever mentioned about the display was that its resolution was higher than the 13" Pro's and text is crisper, and so deem the Air's display to be superior to the Pro's.

None of them, however, even touch on the fact that the Air's color gamut is quite lacking when compared to the Pro's. Colors seem white and blown out with noticeable loss in fine detail, and it's not something that brightness or viewing angle can fix either.

Is it just me and my eyes, or do other people notice this problem as well? If so, how do you guys deal with it? Or is it just not a big deal and something you get used to?

I love the Air so much and totally want to get a 2012 MBA, but the display is really holding me back. Any input will be appreciated!

It really depends on what you prioritise. You can add a colour profile to make the air a bit better too. The Pro has better colours overall but the Air has a better resolution - personally the different in colour isn't enough to outweigh the resolution for me. The pro is more expensive for no SSD, no Haswell and a pretty bad screen for a pro laptop (yes I know the retina exists). Personally it's a no brainer for me.
 
I love the Air so much and totally want to get a 2012 MBA, but the display is really holding me back. Any input will be appreciated!

That is why Apple makes the 13" rMBP. Problem solved. If you want ultra portability with good screen then MBA. If you want acceptable portability with great screen then rMBP.
 
My 11" Haswell MBA came in last week. I upgraded to the i7 and 8MB of RAM.

I love everything about it and think it is a great little laptop, but the display bothers me more and more. I have noticed myself going back to my iPhone or iPad to read emails, etc. just because the resolution is so much better on the retina screens. The MBA screen strains my eyes over time (it's not so bad as far as icons or pictures, but there is a major difference when it comes to text).

I'm considering returning it and getting a 13" rMBP as I think I've become too spoiled to retina displays. If the MBA had a retina screen it would be absolutely perfect... I'd even be fine with the shorter battery life at this point.
 
My 11" Haswell MBA came in last week. I upgraded to the i7 and 8MB of RAM.

I love everything about it and think it is a great little laptop, but the display bothers me more and more. I have noticed myself going back to my iPhone or iPad to read emails, etc. just because the resolution is so much better on the retina screens. The MBA screen strains my eyes over time (it's not so bad as far as icons or pictures, but there is a major difference when it comes to text).

I'm considering returning it and getting a 13" rMBP as I think I've become too spoiled to retina displays. If the MBA had a retina screen it would be absolutely perfect... I'd even be fine with the shorter battery life at this point.

Thats what I did. I just can't pay that much money foe the washed out screen and pixeled text. I got a refurbed retina for the same price with comparable specs but the best screen in the market.
 
Thats what I did. I just can't pay that much money foe the washed out screen and pixeled text. I got a refurbed retina for the same price with comparable specs but the best screen in the market.

Did you get a 15" or 13"? Also, do you regret your decision at all?
 
I just got my 13" MBA last night and as soon as it was all set up, I notice the display was LG right off the bat. To confirm, I ran the script and I was right, it was an LG!.. I'm using the MacRumors LG profile and its not that bad. Icons like the App store and iTunes seems "different." Not sure if it's the panel, or me just not being used to it yet.

The only device I own with Retina is an iPad 4. And my personal comp is a 2009 Mac mini using a Samsung LCD as my monitor and its great. Not sure how Retina would compare with my LCD but I'm sure Retina would still kick my LCD's butt in comparison.

If you're deciding what you should get next when it comes to notebooks or ultra books, I think it all depends what you have as your main machine. If you have a desktop or iMac at home and just need something to grab and go, MBA is perfect! There's no need to go rMBP--unless you're video or photo editing on the road, then you need raw power which rMBP provides.

just my .02 cents.

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Did you get a 15" or 13"? Also, do you regret your decision at all?

from reading all of Falconeight post, it seems like he's happy with his decision.
 
I know retina is good but it causes eye issues - retina fatigue - and also 13" is heavier and not portable !

I think Samsung displays are better for any Mac
 
There's no need to go rMBP--unless you're video or photo editing on the road, then you need raw power which rMBP provides.

I am not doing any of those things, yet I would much rather have a rMBP just for the resolution. I've always had trouble with eye strain when spending long hours at a computer, and the retina screens basically solved that problem for me entirely. My iPhone and iPad never bother my eyes at all, yet the MBA definitely does.
 
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