Macbook in Italy, Yes we can't!

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  1. iThinkurBeats macrumors newbie

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    In Italy the apple products have an expensive price, really high.

    A macbook pro retina 13" base costs 1.499 euro, 1.670$

    A macbook pro retina 15" with only iris pro costa 2.299 euro, 2.600$ and with 750m 2.829 euro, 3.100 $

    A macbook retina 1.499 euro, 1.670 $

    Only in italy, in france, germany the price is lower.

    Here a medium salary is 1.050$/month
     
  2. snaky69 macrumors 603

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    Complain to your government, I believe your import laws are to blame. Going through customs in Italy is akin to getting rectally searched.

    Complaining here won't do much for you.
     
  3. abta1 macrumors 6502

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    In Germany it is only 50Eur less for the base 13" rMBP and only 30Eur less for the 15" rMBP w/ 750m.
     
  4. leman macrumors 604

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    The base 13" costs $1299. This is around 1166 EUR. The VAT in Italy is 22%. So we get the price of 1422 EUR. As far as I see it, the 1499 EUR is absolutely justifiable. Why should Apple sell their products with a loss to themselves in your country just because your economy is weaker then some other countries? Look at countries such as Russia, where the 13' base model is more then 3x average salary. People in villages would literally need to work years to get one.
     
  5. Cloudsurfer macrumors 65816

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    You are forgetting that US prices are without tax, which is always included in European prices. In the Netherlands, for example, a base rMBP without 21% sales tax would be 1198€ or 1334$. I believe the base rMBP in the States is 1299$. That's only a 34$ price difference.

    Now, Apple did adjust prices to compensate for the strong Dollar, which resulted in a massive inflation on their products in the EU (compared to the average inflation in the EU), which makes them appear more expensive from our perspective. But from a financial point of view it wouldn't matter if you'd buy a Mac in the States or in the EU at the moment.
     
  6. MarvinHC macrumors 6502a

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    Here's a tissue, wipe your tears.

    Not sure what else you expected out of this post? Look at it from the bright side, 1499 Euros were over 2000 USD half a year ago, so in a way it has become cheaper ... :D (but maybe Apple will increase the prices soon, they did the same in Australia when their dollar lost value..)
     
  7. yjchua95 macrumors 604

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    They pulled that move and pissed me off when the Broadwell rMBPs came out, but I agree that it was a fair dinkum move in line with the declining Aussie dollar.
     
  8. Mais78 macrumors regular

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    Prices in Italy are in line with Germany and France, most of the difference is explained by the VAT (in Italy I think it is 21 or 22%) while in Germany and France I think it is 19 or 20%. Still in Italy Apple seems to round up prices by 2-3% vs France and Germany. Difference vs US is sales tax, the american always talk and advertise prices before sales tax (but even after sales tax they are still much cheaper as sales tax is lower than VAT in europe).

    Medium salary in Italy is more like $2,000-$3,000! $1.050 is probably the legal minimum not the average!
     
  9. Patrick-Photo macrumors regular

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    Almost the same as the prices in the Netherlands. Import-taxes Europe wide are high, so are sales-taxes. $1999 translates into roughly €1780, but with taxes the total price is around €2270. Quite a P.I.T.A. but it what pays for our government services here... (and then bonuses they receive -_-')
     
  10. dogslobber macrumors 68020

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    I am European but would not dare buy Apple products outwith the USA. It's a total ripoff their prices in the EU. Fortunately, I live in a US state that doesn't have sales tax which makes their high prices less distressing.
     
  11. brdeveloper macrumors 68020

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    Think positive, in Brazil a base 13" Macbook Air costs USD 1800,00 and the minimum wages are ~$250-300.
     
  12. Shox2711 macrumors newbie

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    In Ireland, the 15 inch model with dGPU is 2850.
     
  13. z31fanatic macrumors 6502a

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    I think it's your sales tax (VAT) that makes them seem so much higher. When you subtract VAT from the total price, EU prices are not much higher than US prices. $50-100 it seems.
    In the US each state has different sales tax rate. It can vary from 0% (NH and DE) to 9.5% the highest (WA). The different tax rates are one of the reasons why we always quote pre-tax prices here in the US.
     
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  15. Mais78 macrumors regular

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    not sure a good idea, the last time they did they found themselves with Berlusconi at the government. It is like when it is not a good idea to vote Republicans when there is George W around.
     

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