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MacBook or MacBook Air?

Doju said:
What do you mean by seeing display?

For the record, there is like no difference between the screens, other than the MacBook being gloss. Care to prove some of your claims?

My son uses my computer also, don't try to be smart and bring things like that up.
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You've got to be kidding.😱 Do some research.

You my friend, are not worth my time.
 
justit said:
To see for yourself the difference of Air vs. Macbook Alu, go to a store and try this on any machine:

System preferences --> Desktop Screen Saver --> Select the nature Folder then select the Zebra photo as a background.

Notice the hair in its forehead.

The Air gives color and detail where the macbook shows it as a blotch of black.

I use to think that the Macbook, although bad for viewing angles, was good enough to be seen directly. Not anymore. There is actual detail that's completely missing from the macbook that the air handles superbly.

I would only consider getting a macbook under the condition of permanently hooking it to an LCD external with the lid shut, which defeats its purpose.
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The one you were looking at must have been HORRIBLE or something, because I have no idea what you're talking about. I can see the detail of the hair just fine on my MB screen. 😕
 
Doju said:
And you, mine.

Prove it. The above user, as well as my eyes, are enough of my prove. Let's see some of yours.
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So his eyes aren't enough proof, but yours are?

Credit for this goes to Philflow, who got it from notebookjournal.de

Philflow said:
I'll let the facts speak for themselves.

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For those who don't know, high contrast is better and low blacklevels (schwarzwert) is better.
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Doju said:
And you, mine.

Prove it. The above user, as well as my eyes, are enough of my prove. Let's see some of yours.
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Ut oh.
Something tells me Doju you're going to be sorely mistaken here. I'm pretty sure there are samples images comparing the two that have been posted here.

Ah well, I agree the MB screen is **** (the LG specifically) compared to the MB Air rev A & rev B.
 
Doju said:
And you, mine.

Prove it. The above user, as well as my eyes, are enough of my prove. Let's see some of yours.
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Look up the panel specs. of both, scarecrow. Until then, these may do.😀
 

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NC MacGuy said:
Look up the panel specs. of both, scarecrow. Until then, these may do.😀
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The people who truly need the colour accuracy and better image quality of the MacBook Air's display would do far better to spend that money on a Pro (and they likely do, because of the larger screen and higher resolution).

For someone who simply wants to use the computer to browse the web, edit documents and play the odd game, I don't think that the extra expense of the MacBook Air is worth it just to get that better display.
 
neiltc13 said:
The people who truly need the colour accuracy and better image quality of the MacBook Air's display would do far better to spend that money on a Pro (and they likely do, because of the larger screen and higher resolution).

For someone who simply wants to use the computer to browse the web, edit documents and play the odd game, I don't think that the extra expense of the MacBook Air is worth it just to get that better display.
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That reasoning might not work for everybody... I know people who bought the Air over MBP BECAUSE they wanted a nice screen AND extra mobility/less weight... So to SOME, that might make sense..
 
VSMacOne said:
That reasoning might not work for everybody... I know people who bought the Air over MBP BECAUSE they wanted a nice screen AND extra mobility/less weight... So to SOME, that might make sense..
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I was speaking about need rather than want.
 
Must be defects.

Even if it isn't, it kicks the MBA's behind in everything but slightly in graphics. I bet those are rigged shots, or defect models anyway.

Rev B and Alu MB I assume?
 
Doju said:
Must be defects.

Even if it isn't, it kicks the MBA's behind in everything but slightly in graphics. I bet those are rigged shots, or defect models anyway.

Rev B and Alu MB I assume?
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While neither of the shots are taken at an angle at which you'd regularly view the computer, I have to say that they are not in any way falsified. Mine is just as bad.
 
Doju said:
Must be defects.

Even if it isn't, it kicks the MBA's behind in everything but slightly in graphics. I bet those are rigged shots, or defect models anyway.

Rev B and Alu MB I assume?
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Not rigged at all. I've also taken lots more at many angles. That's my 1st gen. MBA. My gen. 2 MBA is nearly identical to the 1st.

You are mistaken. The graphics are identical. The display panels are different.

I believe Gizmodo posted some similar comparisons w. the same results.

Now it all makes sense:
Doju said:
Sixteen and the envy of all my smartphone-lacking amigos. 😛
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I'm sorry, but get a life. I don't trawl through your posts, that's a bit pathetic. Again, my son and I share this account, he posted that, and there's nothing wrong with that. Your cheap shots are a great judgment of you as a person.

Anyway, childish bickering aside, what would you recommend I get my wife? If the MacBook Air truly has a better screen (how better would you rate it, anyway) would you recommend that, and the significantly higher price tag over the aluminium MacBook? Keep in mind it would be a sole computer.

Again, could we please stop. We've both stated our sides, and we aren't going to cave, there's no reason to bicker. 🙂 Does Apple have the panel specs on their site? I feel conscious of my MacBook now, heh.

I just don't want to pay more for a gift when it has inferior specs, just for a better screen. Is it much better? (Don't point to the pictures either, please, opinion solely would be preferred.) And you're sure it's not a defect lol?
 
^^ I think the MB would do her fine.😀 As it does thousands of others.

I don't like to bicker but also know what I know and will not be told I don't know if I do. Ya' know?

And I do think it is you bickering, I'm just presenting facts.
 
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Hmm. So the screen isn't that bad compared to the Air? I'm like OCD when it comes to this I can't believe I didn't see it.

Where can I find a site with the actual specs

Thanks and sorry.
 
I have the new macbook and it's true about the screen, it's not a defect. There's backlight bleeding, limited viewing angles and poor blacks. But luckily it's only annoying when you watch movies. When you're working the OS it's not a big deal.

I decided to stick with the MB because apart from the screen it really is a great machine. Plus I don't have the patience to wait three weeks for the MBA! XD I'll probably get the next hardware bump of the MBA or after Snow Leopard is released.

Every time I take my MB outside I get comments on how beautiful it is. It's like having a really sexy girlfriend by your side... for once!

The MB is not perfect, but neither is the MBA.
 
Ryffie said:
I have the new macbook and the screen is not defect, there's backlight bleeding, limited viewing angles and poor blacks. But luckily it's only annoying when you watch movies. When you're working the OS it's not a big deal.

I decided to stick with the MB because apart from the screen it really is a great machine. Plus I don't have the patience to wait three weeks for the MBA! XD

Every time I take my MB outside I get comments on how beautiful it is. It's like having a really sexy girlfriend by your side... for once!

The MB is not perfect, but neither is the MBA.
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Well said and I couldn't agree more.
 
justit said:
To see for yourself the difference of Air vs. Macbook Alu, go to a store and try this on any machine:

System preferences --> Desktop Screen Saver --> Select the nature Folder then select the Zebra photo as a background.

Notice the hair in its forehead.

The Air gives color and detail where the macbook shows it as a blotch of black.

I use to think that the Macbook, although bad for viewing angles, was good enough to be seen directly. Not anymore. There is actual detail that's completely missing from the macbook that the air handles superbly.

I would only consider getting a macbook under the condition of permanently hooking it to an LCD external with the lid shut, which defeats its purpose.
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Just for the heck of it, I tried this on my MacBook and my iMac (matte screen), and you're right... I could easily see the detail on my iMac, but the same area looked almost like a uniform black patch on my MacBook.

I decided to try another calibration, this time using the zebra pic as a guide, rather than just the visual guides in Apple's calibrator. The settings ended up way different than they were, but the result was much better with the zebra shot and other desktop pics that I loaded.

The viewing angle is still limited and the image isn't as good at the one on the MBP or MBA (based on what I've seen), but it's very acceptable for the work that I do, which is mostly writing/e-mail (i.e., text on a white background) and some surfing.

So, thank you justit for your post. It made me even more satisfied with my MB, although I'm sure that your intention was the opposite. 🙂
 
VSMacOne said:
The one you were looking at must have been HORRIBLE or something, because I have no idea what you're talking about. I can see the detail of the hair just fine on my MB screen. 😕
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Yes, if you mean HORRIBLE = Typical 😱

You see some of the hair, but when you look at the macbook air it's stunning how much more detail comes out that does not show on both the new aluminum macbook and the white plastic, even when both are set to full brightness and looking straight on, no tilting.
 
Roller said:
So, thank you justit for your post. It made me even more satisfied with my MB, although I'm sure that your intention was the opposite. 🙂
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No intentions, just wishful thinking. If the MB works for you more power to ya! I've been reading here that it's the same screen when looked straight on (no angles) which is what I was actually wishing for since on specs alone, the MB is a better machine as I'm about to make a purchasing decision very soon.
 
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