Here's a twist to the stale MB vs MBP posts. I am going to be off to college next Fall and will be buying a laptop to replace my (mostly working) iBook G3 500MHz. When I started browsing laptops, I assumed that I would be getting a MB or a MBP. Noting the price of the MBP, my choice was narrowed down to a MB. I usually prefer a little more choice than, well, none... So I began asking around on forums and on campus during tours and such. It seems that for Electrical Engineering (my major), I will be using Windows most of the time because nearly all of the programs run in Windows. This opens up a whole new array of options for laptop choices. I know there are other options for laptops besides the ThinkPads, but they are usually too big, too heavy, have too little battery life, or all of the above. Plus ThinkPads are built like tanks - in a good way. (of course, if you have used or know someone who uses another laptop, then please post - I'm completely new to the whole PC-buying thing) I was drawn to the X61 because of its form factor. It has a 12" screen (which is one of the things I like about my iBook), weighs 3.5lbs (with extended battery installed), and has 8 hours quoted battery life (with the extended battery). I have read many, many reviews of both the MacBook and the X61 and it seems that both are well-built, reliable, fantastic laptops. Things I like about the MacBook: • Option to run OS X • It's a Mac • MagSafe is kinda cool (although I heard that it is susceptible to breakage - comments?) • Larger base hard drive Things I don't like about the MacBook: • Glossy screen • Lack of expansion • Battery life is a little short (4-4.5 hours real usage time vs. 6-7 hours real usage time on the X61 - from various reviews and users on this forum) Things I like about the ThinkPad X61: • Weight (3.5lbs vs the MacBook's 5lbs) • Size (smaller than MB) • XP option from factory (aka take it out of the box, charge it, install antivirus, and you're done) • Plenty of expansion (3 USB, firewire, PCMCIA/ExpressCard combo slot, dock option) Things I don't like about the ThinkPad X61: • No OS X ever (well, except for some practices that will not be discussed here) • Never bought a PC before (I've been a Mac user forever) Prices: MB: $999 edu discount + $140 Windows XP Pro OEM version (at TigerDirect) = $1139 X61: $1180 (XP, high-cap battery, bluetooth) + $125 MS Office Home & Student edition (at TigerDirect) = $1305 Overall, the price is close (I won't base my decision on $166), the specs are identical (1GB RAM, 2.0 GHz Core 2 Duo, X3100 graphics), they are both high-quality laptops, etc. Any input is appreciated (well except useless "MACS FTW" fanboy responses).