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temperature is totally normal for these MacBook Pro. fans stay 0 until around 65c I believe. the thing is it uses the chassis for passive cooling for short/mid usage timeframe. and fans for when processing tasks
 
temperature is totally normal for these MacBook Pro. fans stay 0 until around 65c I believe. the thing is it uses the chassis for passive cooling for short/mid usage timeframe. and fans for when processing tasks

I'm using istat to set my mine at 50c... Keyboard starts to get too hot to wait for it to get to 65c man
 
It's just the nature of Apple's MacBook design. I really wish they would take a note from Razer's thermal design on their laptops. They use conservative power limits to maintain most of the performance, without thermal throttling. Not to mention the fans that blow through the heatsink and the keyboard to keep them both cool, really clever.
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Razer's QC is terrible but their cooling on their new devices is top notch. I've owned both a MacBook and a Razer Blade 15 and the cooling is not even remotely close. With the Razer Blade being about a half a pound heavier, but destroying the MacBook in cooling performance.
 
I've no idea on your metric for 'cooling performance' but the 13" MBP has no issues running at a sustained speed well-above the published base clock frequency (Apple effectively runs Intel CPUs as unlocked) and achieve mid-range boost frequencies on all cores.

The throw-away line about cooling is banded around so much that people like to repeat it with zero knowledge to underpin it. Saying it just makes people look silly; probably the exact reverse of the knowledgable persona that they hoping for.
 
I've no idea on your metric for 'cooling performance' but the 13" MBP has no issues running at a sustained speed well-above the published base clock frequency (Apple effectively runs Intel CPUs as unlocked) and achieve mid-range boost frequencies on all cores.

The throw-away line about cooling is banded around so much that people like to repeat it with zero knowledge to underpin it. Saying it just makes people look silly; probably the exact reverse of the knowledgable persona that they hoping for.
I mean I thought it was pretty obvious that I was comparing similarly specced versions of each brand. But I can see you’re not really looking for a productive conversation. You’d rather just assume everyone other than yourself has zero knowledge. Can’t risk damage to your ego, right? I get it, it’s ok
 
It doesn't work that way. You pointed your finger at cooling issues with modern 13" MBPs and pointed to a different manufacturer and said they were better for 'cooling performance'. No facts, just hubris.

Fact: Modern 13" MBPs have excess cooling capacity to the extent that they can continually run their Intel CPUs over and above their rated performance levels (aka overclocking).

This topic was done to death with last year's 13" MBP 'throttlegate'. Apple choose to run their Intel CPUs in an unlocked state so the only limit applied is the thermal limit. This means that, for maximum performance, the machine will run to the physical thermal limit rather than the lower limits normally set by Intel.

If a CPU is capable of running at it's claimed base clock frequency (all core) and turbo to the claimed frequency (single core) then it is not thermally constrained by the system cooling. Any performance above this level is a bonus and a chance for the silicone lottery.

Evidence:

Screenshot 2019-10-07 at 11.13.13.png


2018 13" MBP 2.3GHz (all cores). Actual sustained performance achieved (all cores) = 3.0GHz.

At the other end of the performance scale, same machine, just with regular productivity tasks:

Screenshot 2019-10-07 at 11.30.07.png


To be clear, you have claimed that the 13" MBP is CPU constrained due to poor cooling. Please post your 'pretty obvious' testing you have completed on your similarly spec'ed machines that underpins your argument.
 
will there be an update for 2.4ghz macbook pro 13 this october ?
wish they will sell it with 16 gb ram minimum
 
Hi.
I just had this same problem. The Macbook Pro 2019 8GB RAM was just that to like taking on a hot cup of coffee and you almost get burn. I have now re-installed it without deleting the files because nothing else was helping. And now the machine is not that hot, I recommend you guys doing the same.

I had the mac for about 2 month but the issue was already from the beginning. Now last 2 hours it have been not that hot, its still hot but its acceptable. I will see what happens tomorrow etc. will keep updating this post. But it might help if you reinstall,
 
same situation here. It's been three days, especially Touch Bar heats up and then it spreads to all keyboard and I don't hear any fan noise. Is it normal?
 
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