Thanks to doc750 for mentioning them in another post! On my way home I was reading a thread on someone looking to get the 13" pro from the Apple store & out of all the suggestions it was brought up to try micro center if there's one near you... So happens there's one about 30 minutes from me. The deal was $200 off a new basic MacBook Pro 13" model MC374LL/A and it was an instant in-store savings. Since I finally decided this was the new Mac for me I went in to see what was what. Only down side was that others got iLife 09' with it. The salesman in the store also told me it would have that as well. Either way I was saving $150 if I bought it so I went for it. When I got to the car I popped the box open just to be sure it was not damaged etc. and to my surprise there was an iLife 11' update disc inside! So now I'm really happy with my new toy.... All I need to get is an ssd and I'm good to go and saved a good bit of $. Just wanted to share and say thanks to the great members here for the help.