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Gonza211

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Hello,

I am having this strange thing since I've bought the Macbook and reinstalling macOS, installing the latest Beta, etc. won't solve it.

My MacBook Pro is waking up every 2 hours, with the lid closed and no external items connected. I'm losing about 4% battery life per night which is why I hate this.

Anyone has been experiencing something similar? Called AppleCare and told me to go to the Store for a checkup, but doubt that would help.
 

Sanpete

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There are various apps that will wake your machine up to receive notifications, messages, etc. Are you running anything like that?
 

rorschach

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Open Terminal and run:
Code:
pmset -g assertions

That should give you a list of what is preventing it from sleeping, or waking it.
 
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Gonza211

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Most of the times it is because of
RTC/Maintenance

Any idea what that is?
 

Sanpete

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People have had that issue even with all their wake-related preferences turned off. One person fixed it with a reinstall of the OS. Anyway, the symptoms go back years through lots of different OS.
 

camhabib

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I had this issue for years with a Mac Pro. Never figured it out and wound up selling it before I could. I'd be interested in hearing the solution none the less.
 

Gonza211

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I wouldn't mind if it was on a desktop machine, but since its my laptop and Im losing about 4% battery life on average per night that I leave it asleep, then thats something that matters since shouldnt lose more than 1%. Might need to go to the store for a checkup.

Been having a few problems with the battery on this MacBook Pro that it is really pissing me off. Had a 15 inch Late 2013 before that had no problems whatsoever. This ones the battery draining fast, or draining overnight, not lasting whats expected... We'll see.
 

Sanpete

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This isn't a battery problem, it's a sleep problem. A late 2013 that wakes up every two hours will also lose power overnight. But the 13" TB does have a spotty record with battery life for other reasons, so you're not alone.

When you say you reinstalled the OS, was that a clean install with a new copy? Since this problem isn't typical, it may be related to some peculiarity of your copy or the software you run on it. At the Apple Store they will likely want to do a clean install, in any case, unless they already know how to fix it.
 

Gonza211

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That's normal. Previous MacBooks behave the same. Chill out and enjoy!

I've seen that several people have had this in the past yet I think it should not be normal since I'm losing battery on sleep. Using iStat Menus I see that the CPU skyrockets during those 3-4 secs that the Macbook wakes from sleep to do who knows what. My ex MacBook Pro did not lose battery life when asleep, though it may be that I'm a bit skeptical because the battery life that I'm getting on this new Macbook is far below that what Apple says it should be, even with the latest beta.
 

lobo1978

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I've seen that several people have had this in the past yet I think it should not be normal since I'm losing battery on sleep

ALL my macs wake up every hour or so even on battery (power nap = FALSE). To support it I attached part of wake reason log below (sierra - latest beta 7).


However if you lose a lot of battery life (+10%) while sleep/deep sleep/hibernate I will look what look your mac is doing while awake.

In your case 4% per night is not worth your time - it is normal. I assume you have not messed with default pmset?

BTW: I am trying to help you get over it. I was there, trust me ;). For 99% of cases mac is working perfectly normal. I have a long history of OCD but now I can help others.

LOG:

2017-03-08 01:28:17.915643+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (AppleACPIPlatform) Wake reason: RTC (Alarm)

2017-03-08 01:28:17.915645+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (AppleACPIPlatform) Wake reason: RTC (Alarm)

2017-03-08 02:28:11.171919+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (AppleTopCaseHIDEventDriver) [HID] [ATC] AppleDeviceManagementHIDEventService ProcessWakeReason Wake reason: Host (0x01)

2017-03-08 02:29:48.925062+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (AppleACPIPlatform) Wake reason: RTC (Alarm)

2017-03-08 02:29:48.925064+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (AppleACPIPlatform) Wake reason: RTC (Alarm)

2017-03-08 03:29:42.176268+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (AppleTopCaseHIDEventDriver) [HID] [ATC] AppleDeviceManagementHIDEventService ProcessWakeReason Wake reason: Host (0x01)

2017-03-08 03:31:19.936469+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (AppleACPIPlatform) Wake reason: RTC (Alarm)

2017-03-08 03:31:19.936471+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (AppleACPIPlatform) Wake reason: RTC (Alarm)

2017-03-08 04:31:13.174602+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (AppleTopCaseHIDEventDriver) [HID] [ATC] AppleDeviceManagementHIDEventService:processWakeReason Wake reason: Host (0x01)

2017-03-08 04:32:50.929250+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (AppleACPIPlatform) Wake reason: RTC (Alarm)
 
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Sanpete

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ALL my macs wake up every hour or so even on battery (power nap = FALSE).

They shouldn't, though. Unless you're using some app that requires regular waking, your MBP should sleep soundly for three hours and then enter standby mode.
 

lobo1978

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Are you sure? Type in terminal of your mac:
log show --style syslog | fgrep "Wake reason"

My (almost default - powernap on battery is off) power settings:
pmset -g
---
System-wide power settings:

Currently in use:

standbydelay 10800

standby 1

halfdim 1

hibernatefile /var/vm/sleepimage

powernap 0

gpuswitch 2

disksleep 10

sleep 1

autopoweroffdelay 28800

hibernatemode 3

autopoweroff 1

ttyskeepawake 1

displaysleep 2

acwake 0

lidwake 1
 

Sanpete

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Are you sure? Type in terminal of your mac:
log show --style syslog | fgrep "Wake reason"

My (almost default - powernap on battery is off) power settings:
pmset -g
---
System-wide power settings:

Currently in use:

standbydelay 10800

standby 1

halfdim 1

hibernatefile /var/vm/sleepimage

powernap 0

gpuswitch 2

disksleep 10

sleep 1

autopoweroffdelay 28800

hibernatemode 3

autopoweroff 1

ttyskeepawake 1

displaysleep 2

acwake 0

lidwake 1

Can't tell what you think this shows. I haven't had my MBP on battery overnight, so apps that wake it are fine. But according to Apple, if on battery, not plugged into other devices, it should sleep for three hours and go into standby mode.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202124
 

idunn

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CPU skyrockets during those 3-4 secs that the Macbook wakes from sleep to do who knows what.

Decreased battery life may be the least of your problems. Doing "who knows what"—who could welcome that with something often as personal and revealing as a personal computer?
 

maflynn

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Try a clean install of OS X. Confirm if the issue is, or isn't there, then start slowing re-installing your software. Observer if the issue starts up after installing the apps.

Be sure to have a backup though ;)
 

lobo1978

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Can't tell what you think this shows
this terminal command will list of all wake events - you can check what is happening during night when your mac sleeps/hibernates


BTW: This command feeds all events stored in log - so be patient

Paste your pmset config if you need opinions.

Don't reinstall system now. First create new user, log in and check if it helps.
 

Sanpete

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this terminal command will list of all wake events - you can check what is happening during night when your mac sleeps/hibernates

I understood that. I still don't see what relevance you think this would have to the OP. I explained why my case doesn't match his, so a log for my machine would be of no relevance. My machine has no issues related to sleep.
 

Gonza211

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Here goes my log for the command that someone posted earlier. Got 52 wakes in 3 days. Certainly not normal. Been cycling from ARPT Network, XCH1 and RTC (Alarm). Find my Mac is Off. No external devices connected. Will do reinstall when final version 10.12.4 comes out, meanwhile here comes log.

http://pastebin.com/Wskp7grb
 

lobo1978

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Here goes my log for the command that someone posted earlier. Got 52 wakes in 3 days. Certainly not normal. Been cycling from ARPT Network, XCH1 and RTC (Alarm). Find my Mac is Off. No external devices connected. Will do reinstall when final version 10.12.4 comes out, meanwhile here comes log.

http://pastebin.com/Wskp7grb
Are you a member of public beta? Please upload your log there. They are listening (certainly not here at MacRumors). Apple team solved 2 my problems (gmail in mail.app and pdf artifacts) in current beta.
Good luck!
 
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