Macbook Pro 15 2016 extremely slow after installing High Sierra?

nuti1925

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Anyone has the same problem with the macbook extremely laggy especially when using safari and type really fast? Also the wifi connection is really really slow.
 

skaertus

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Anyone has the same problem with the macbook extremely laggy especially when using safari and type really fast? Also the wifi connection is really really slow.
Is it because of APFS? I asked it because it seems that APFS made my iPhone very laggy.
 

William Payne

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Come on, people! It's beta software. It's not optimized for speed yet and still had debugging code in place. If you expect to run like release software you shouldn't be installing it. Certainly not on your primary system.
Agreed, weird how mad the rush is to install a Beta, unproven, untested, and technically unreleased piece of software.
 

skaertus

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Is it slow just because it is beta software?

Does anybody think it may have to do with the new file system Apple is including? APFS is faster than HFS+ at copying files in the same disk, as shown at WWDC, but that is because the files are not in fact reproduced.

I saw boot time tests on YouTube and they seem to indicate that Sierra is faster than High Sierra perhaps because of APFS.

My iPhone 6s became remarkably slower when I upgraded iOS to feature the new file system.

So, does anybody think this can be the reason? I have seem some reports of Apple pushing APFS faster than it should, as the file system may not be mature for mass consumption.

Any thoughts?
 

dacreativeguy

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Come on, people! It's beta software.
Not even! This is a Developer Preview! The people who this software is intended for understand the limitations and aren't complaining on public forums. The "Public BETA" is the software you should be using when it is released.
 

ChaddieMac

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Jun 13, 2017
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My system was super slow after high Sierra but it’s to be expected. It’s beta. Since I really don’t do anything intensive on it, I just may leave it on there and pay around with it for a while
 

xflashx

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Not even! This is a Developer Preview! The people who this software is intended for understand the limitations and aren't complaining on public forums. The "Public BETA" is the software you should be using when it is released.
Developer preview = beta. I don't know why so many people say it's not a beta. The word "beta" is literally mentioned everywhere in the OS.
 

anthonyondre

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Come on, people! It's beta software. It's not optimized for speed yet and still had debugging code in place. If you expect to run like release software you shouldn't be installing it. Certainly not on your primary system.

If you don't run the beta as your primary system, you will not see the problem. Unix systems are very prone to file based problems. If you just have a clean new system, then you are testing a clean new system which nobody runs in the real world. Instead run it with 10's of thousands of files. Use an address book with 4,000+ entries and watch how the address book database problems can trash an entire system. Use a calendar that has years of data, thousands of appointments. Watch how it does not synchro across iCloud or Google.

The main problem with macOS and the reason why it is so buggy today is that the testers at Apple dont run it as their primary system loaded with their day to day data. When it is released, people load it and BOOM, all sorts of issues show up. This is exactly why Apple runs a public beta today... because their QA people are not up to the task and have no real-world models... You are Apples new QA department, welcome to Apple Inc! (sorry, no paycheck, you are a perpetual intern)
[doublepost=1500123372][/doublepost]Disk speed roughly 25% slower on new APFS file system, encrypted before and after for same comparison
Seems a bunch of bugs fixed and so far more stable than the "released" Sierra. Finder seems to be able to 'right size' a window now and not leave gobs of blank space on the right. It still puts file and folder icons up half way off the screen under the title bar on a 'right size' operation and you have to drag the corner just a little to have it put the icons back down in the visible area. Inefficiency of Apple apps (Cocoa, Objective C, the horrendously inefficient view system, the new Swift) still cause the fan to come on all the time while just idling.

Overall we dont' do anything more than we did 10 years ago on the Mac yet we need 10 times the processor and 10 times the memory to do it and the machine still labors. Right now, typing this, the machine is using 51% of its processing capability with an intel i7 4 core MacBook Pro Retina.
 

MacGizmo

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It's not Apple's fault that idiots run a beta on their main Mac, along side dozens or even hundreds of other 3rd party utilities and apps, with all their important files on it, and with the expectation that because it's a public beta it will be near bug-free.
 

LarryJoe33

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After you install it for the first time it is indexing your files and it is indexing your photos (face and tag meta data) behind the scenes. It may also be uploading all your messages to iCloud.

This could take a day or so. It will run slow until this is complete.
 

trisweb

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It's not Apple's fault that idiots run a beta on their main Mac, along side dozens or even hundreds of other 3rd party utilities and apps, with all their important files on it, and with the expectation that because it's a public beta it will be near bug-free.
Hey y'all, just a drive-by digging up this old post to say, I've been using the final release version of High Sierra for over a month now, and it's laggy as heck. The slowness problems are very real, Apple screwed something up majorly in the video or CPU scheduling stack, and there are real issues. Almost unbearably bad. Sad, really.

Anyone have any suggestions?
 

LarryJoe33

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Hey y'all, just a drive-by digging up this old post to say, I've been using the final release version of High Sierra for over a month now, and it's laggy as heck. The slowness problems are very real, Apple screwed something up majorly in the video or CPU scheduling stack, and there are real issues. Almost unbearably bad. Sad, really.

Anyone have any suggestions?
All good here, like butter. What are your specs?