MacBook Pro 16 Inch with eGPU NVIDIA RTX 2070 Super vs Gaming Desktop NVIDIA RTX 2070 Super 2020

[soulreaver99]

A week after building my first PC in 20 years, I decided to benchmark my new gaming PC against my previous gaming setup... the MacBook Pro 16-inch with an eGPU + NVIDIA RTX 2070 Super.

In this video, I benchmarked both of them on Shadow of Tomb Raider, Call of Duty Warzone, Control, and 3D Mark Time Spy and Firestrike. I knew there was going to be a performance variance between the two setups but I did not expect that much of a performance hit when using the eGPU!

If you want to jump right into the benchmarks, it starts at 3:32 of the video. Or if you don't feel like watching here are my results:

Tomb Raider

• Desktop - 70 FPS
• MacBook- 64 FPS

Modern Warfare Warzone

• Desktop - 85-95FPS
• MacBook - 55-65 FPS

Control (DirectX 12)

• Desktop -75-80 FPS
• MacBook - 35-40 FPS

3D Mark Time Spy

• Desktop 10220
• MacBook 7824

3D Mark Firestrike

• Desktop -22422
• MacBook - 14062

 

[leman]

Is that using an external monitor?

 

[soulreaver99]

Is that using an external monitor?

Yes. Output to a 35 inch 3440x1440 resolution

 

[MikhailT]

Did you connect eGPU on the right side? There's a potential issue using the left-side TB port.

However, the problem is due to the external thunderbolt controller overhead (plus thermal usage from it is reportedly high, 10-20w). Look at this as to why it has a major impact versus Intel's 10nm Ice Lake with the onboard thunderbolt controller: https://www.theeverydayenthusiast.c...omparison-intel-ice-lake-vs-intel-coffee-lake

[Update, no tiger lake 10nm H this year]

 

[leman]

Hopefully, we'll see the upcoming 11th Tiger Lake CPU in the next rMBP 16 update, it'll be the first 10nm H series CPU from Intel and they are supposed to announce it on Sept 2nd.The current rMBP 16 is still using a 9th gen CPU and 10th gen is nothing special, it's just a refresh of the same 14nm Comet Lake with no onboard TB controller.

I thought that there are no 10nm H series CPUs in the Intel roadmap unit 2021-2022? We’re there some new leaks?

 

[richinaus]

A week after building my first PC in 20 years, I decided to benchmark my new gaming PC against my previous gaming setup... the MacBook Pro 16-inch with an eGPU + NVIDIA RTX 2070 Super.

In this video, I benchmarked both of them on Shadow of Tomb Raider, Call of Duty Warzone, Control, and 3D Mark Time Spy and Firestrike. I knew there was going to be a performance variance between the two setups but I did not expect that much of a performance hit when using the eGPU!

If you want to jump right into the benchmarks, it starts at 3:32 of the video. Or if you don't feel like watching here are my results:

Tomb Raider

• Desktop - 70 FPS
• MacBook- 64 FPS

Modern Warfare Warzone

• Desktop - 85-95FPS
• MacBook - 55-65 FPS

Control (DirectX 12)

• Desktop -75-80 FPS
• MacBook - 35-40 FPS

3D Mark Time Spy

• Desktop 10220
• MacBook 7824

3D Mark Firestrike

• Desktop -22422
• MacBook - 14062

You have near enough the same set up I was just looking at yesterday so thank you for posting this.

Did you put in any additional fans into the NZXT case and how does it run - ie hot / whisper quiet etc?
Is there anything you would change?

The scores are very positive and is something I expected tbh with thunderbolt vs desktop.

cheers !

 

[MikhailT]

I thought that there are no 10nm H series CPUs in the Intel roadmap unit 2021-2022? We’re there some new leaks?

I was going off the Verge article here: https://www.theverge.com/circuitbre...rnings-amd-10nm-tiger-lake-desktop-laptop-cpu

> It’s not all bad news for Intel, though: the company is on track to release its 11th Gen Tiger Lake chips (based on the company’s third-generation, 10nm++ processor) to succeed the 10th Gen Ice Lake lineup for laptops later this year, bringing with them Intel’s much-hyped Xe graphics.

You're right, there's no mention of 45w/H series of Tiger Lake, which is extremely disappointing.

I'm guessing the next refresh is likely to be Apple Silicon instead if it is that far out.

 

[soulreaver99]

You have near enough the same set up I was just looking at yesterday so thank you for posting this.

Did you put in any additional fans into the NZXT case and how does it run - ie hot / whisper quiet etc?
Is there anything you would change?

The scores are very positive and is something I expected tbh with thunderbolt vs desktop.

cheers !

I just use the fans that come with the case and a Deepcool Castle EX240 AIO. It does run quiet for the most part. Honestly wouldn't change a thing right now except for the next gen nvidia cards when they come out.

 

[soulreaver99]

Did you connect eGPU on the right side? There's a potential issue using the left-side TB port.

However, the problem is due to the external thunderbolt controller overhead (plus thermal usage from it is reportedly high, 10-20w). Look at this as to why it has a major impact versus Intel's 10nm Ice Lake with the onboard thunderbolt controller: https://www.theeverydayenthusiast.c...omparison-intel-ice-lake-vs-intel-coffee-lake

[Update, no tiger lake 10nm H this year]

Connected on the right side, but I do get the same performance on the right. Unrelated issue - speaking on those ports, HDMI audio doesn't work when plugged on the left side in MacOS Big Sur, but works fine in Catalina and WIndows. Weirdest thing ever.

 

[MikhailT]

I was going off the Verge article here: https://www.theverge.com/circuitbre...rnings-amd-10nm-tiger-lake-desktop-laptop-cpu

> It’s not all bad news for Intel, though: the company is on track to release its 11th Gen Tiger Lake chips (based on the company’s third-generation, 10nm++ processor) to succeed the 10th Gen Ice Lake lineup for laptops later this year, bringing with them Intel’s much-hyped Xe graphics.

You're right, there's no mention of 45w/H series of Tiger Lake, which is extremely disappointing.

I'm guessing the next refresh is likely to be Apple Silicon instead if it is that far out.

Latest rumor is Q1 2021: https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-tiger-lake-h-expected-in-first-quarter-of-2021

 

[richinaus]

So I ordered this......

AC21326	be quiet! Straight Power 11 850W 80+ Gold Modular Power Supply
AC29613	AMD Ryzen 9 3950X 16-Core AM4 3.50 GHz Unlocked CPU Processor
AC11456	Samsung 860 Evo 1TB 2.5" SATA III 6GB/s V-NAND SSD MZ-76E1T0BW
AB47402
AC26701	Microsoft Windows 10 Professional 32/64-bit USB Drive - Retail Box
AC24912	NZXT H510 Tempered Glass Mid-Tower ATX Case - Matte Black
AC13200	Samsung 970 Pro 512GB NVMe 1.3 M.2 (2280) 3D V-NAND SSD - MZ-V7P512BW
AC27237	Kingston HyperX FURY 32GB (2x 16GB) DDR4 3200MHz Memory
AB52376
AC24576	ASUS Pro WS X570 ACE AM4 ATX Motherboard
AC18646	ASUS ROG Ryujin 240 AiO OLED PWM Liquid CPU Cooler

I will be adding my RTX 2080 super to this system and will get Ampere when it hits the market.
This is going to be my workstation for rendering and productivity and to get me through the Apple Silicone transition.
All in black too which is going to look great.

Given boot camp will disappear I would rather have the latest Apple Silicone mac rather than holding onto an outdated model like the new iMac. So as soon I saw that was released, I pulled the trigger on the PC and feel comfortable doing so as it will give what I need.

I need boot camp for my work and at present am using it 100% of the time and will be for the next few months. My work easily pays for this so is simply a tool to get some work done and more.

I also intend to get a 14” Apple Silicone MBP when they are released, and hopefully be able to Remote Desktop into this PC. Then I get the best of all worlds.

Looking forward to see how it flies when I max out the CPU and GPU [on rendering tasks].