MacBook Pro 16" is excellent

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Since forever, I have dreamed of a notebook that could work as an all in one, super-computing device. One that was slim and light enough, I could lug everywhere, have great battery life, a huge screen, an amazing keyboard, while offering great performance so it can serve as both mobile work station for video editing and battle station for gaming.

In all, I have personally bought and use 19 laptops(13 windows based and 6 MacOS), over the course of 20 odd years, in my pursuit of notebook perfection. Ranging from colossal 18.4” back breakers, to diminutive 11.6” computing wonders. Never quite finding completely satisfaction.

The last few years I partially lived that dream, not withstanding some compromise. Life on a Razer Blade 14” 2015 as my main rig, was pretty good but fell short in some areas, particularly battery life, screen size and raw cpu processing power. I also made a bad decision by wrongly estimating my storage needs, resulting in a precarious balancing act of keeping/deleting files as I was almost always, dangerously close to max capacity.

Early this year I bought a MacBook Pro 16” and what a revelation it has been. Truth be told, my motivation for buying a new notebook was entirely due to external circumstance, rather than careful and deliberate planning. Yet perhaps, there has never been a more opportune time to procure a MacBook Pro.

For years I have considered switching back to the Mac, simply because the whole windows experience has been quite harrowing. Also the simplicity offered by being in Apple’s ecosystem is unrivalled, one that is easily taken for granted till you have the unpleasant experience of wandering outside.

Unfortunately there was always something that kept me back for the high end MacBook Pro, in the former days it was the weight and bulk of the unwieldy behemoth of a machine which was the 17” MacBook Pro, later it was the gimped GPU options that was further exacerbated by that ridiculous butterfly keyboard and the unnecessary thermal throttling foisted upon the MacBook Pro in Apple’s attempt to make it slightly sexier. Last but not least, the eye watering exorbitant price attached to the purchase of said Macbook Pro.

Yet in one masterful stroke, the MacBook Pro 16” repudiate apple’s seemingly suicidal need of form over function and seat them firmly at the forefront of simple ingenuity once again.

Of course, it is the cumulation of many external events that has led to such a product, playing no small part is the release of Intel’s most powerful notebook silicone to date, featuring 16 threads of multitasking. Add into the mix is the all new AMD Navi architecture, bringing with it a substantial upgrade over previous GPU offering. Never has there been a MacBook Pro with such raw CPU/GPU power.

But more importantly I believe, is the countless feedback from the industry, from people like you, like me.

Like a ship righting its course, Apple started making amends with the iPhone XR, offering the latest silicon, with the new form factor, in an enlarged screen size, while packing the best battery life yet in any iPhone. All this, wrapped in an array of fun colours, at an all new affordable price.

If the XR signal a change of era, the MacBook Pro 16” thoroughly establish Apple in a new era, where customer feedback actually means something. So many of the nagging points that hinder the MacBook Pro 15” has been address in a singular update, without any fan fare or hype. This is apple 2.0, more “it just works”, less smoke and mirrors.

With the MacBook Pro 16” the checklist of items bemoaned, has largely been fixed. Better keyboard? Checked. Better thermal performance? Checked.

But why stop there. Throw in an all new 6 speaker sound system, a 3 array studio quality mic, narrow the bezels and add in the largest retina screen ever on a MacBook, insert the biggest battery that is FAA approved. Drop in an Intel i7 6-core or i9 8-core CPU, and AMD Navi 5000s pro series GPU and you have a venerable workhorse of a system. Give the customers insane configuration options like 64GB of Ram and 8TB of SSD space.

Of course less we forget, the stable of Apple goodies such as the best and largest trackpad currently available in the industry, Touch ID, Siri, T2 security chip, the highly intuitive touch bar, MacOS, the various useful apps that come free with MacOS and all the tangible benefits of being in Apple’s ecosystem.

Shrink all this goodness into a 2kg unibody package that is both slim and light, while drawing only 96 watts from the socket. Finally keep the exact price as the out going MacBook Pro 15” model, at the same time, doubling up on the amount of storage space given.

Apple absolutely went big with the MacBook Pro 16”.


I have been using the MacBook Pro 16” for almost 2 months now. The experience is nothing short of magical.


As someone who works with videos, I still find myself shocked at how 4k editing can be played back in real time with so many added effects, using performance mode, on FCPX. The exporting of videos is insanely fast. Back in 2006-2009, it took me like 6 to 8 hours to render an hour of Full HD content on Premiere Pro, using a top of the line desktop that cost more than 5k, featuring an 8 core, Intel extreme chip and the fastest SLI Nvidia cards, powered by a monster 750 watts power supply. On the MacBook Pro 16”, running FCPX, an hour of Full HD clip can be exported in less time than it takes, for me to take a shower.

Gaming on both WoW and D3 has been excellent, I could not ask for more. All settings can be pushed to ultra while enjoying very playable frame rates. Some people have complained about ghosting on this forum but I am by happy chance, unable to notice it. The MacBook Pro 16” also does an excellent job of playing back videos with its expansive retina screen and amazing sound system. For me, it is the closest to a cinematic experience on a laptop yet.

Most importantly, the Macbook Pro 16” is light and slim enough to be carried everywhere. It also has the battery life to last. I have been using mine for about 10 hours on battery, with 35% still showing, surfing the web, watching YouTube and typing on Pages. I do have Turbo boost disable, just to see how long the battery can last, and for better or worst, it can easily outlast me.

To be honest I was pretty happy with the Razer Blade 14” 2015 in spite of the compromise, but the MacBook Pro 16” is icing on the cake. It’s living the all in one dream, that Apple has finally made a reality. Who would have guessed number 20 was the one.
 

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Great to read some love in this forum for a change. 😀

I’m two days into ownership and everything looks great so far and performance is astonishing. I’d don’t have the size and weight issues many complain about as I’m coming from a 17” MBP so the 16” is svelte in comparison.
 

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My lineage of laptops is...

2002 Dell XPS(?) 15 incH.

2006 MacBook white clamshell

2008 MacBook Pro Unibody 15”

2015 MacBook Pro 15”

2020/2019 MacBook Pro 16”-2.3ghz i9/32gb Ram/5500 8gb Vram

This 16” by far is the cream of the crop for me in all aspects. 4K video editing from a Sony a7iii on Final cut is seamless.

Compared to my Dell and 2008 unibody, this 16” is pretty damn comfortable for the power it holds battery wise and the power it exerts.

For $3700 including AC+, I actually feel like I got peace of mind for several years down the road.
 

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I just bought a 16in MBP about 2 weeks ago once they hit referb to replace my mid 2015. Had a good feeling about this model despite having never touched one and went for an upper middle of the road model with highest CPU/GPU and 2tb / 32gb. Extremly happy it so far. Love the sound. Love its gaming ability on top of being a great video editing workstation.
 
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Great to read some love in this forum for a change. ?
It's the nature of the beast, product owners log into forum sites like this because they have encountered a problem and are looking for possible solutions. As with any bad technical encounter, the likelihood of a singularity is infinitely small. The pooling of people with similar problems when it reaches critical mass, takes on a life of its own. So much so, other owners of said product who were originally not affected by the so called "flaw" also begin to look for said issue in their product. This then affects the perception of would be buyers dissuading them from said purchase, while the majority of owners in fact have very positive experience.

Of course there are some very real issues for example the "butterfly" keyboard and thermal throttling in the 2018 MacBook Pro 15", but issues like these, will be voiced by the vast majority and also heavily criticised by YouTube reviewers.

The MacBook Pro 16" on the other hand, has been a breeze of fresh air, almost every reviewer wax lyrical, recommending it whole heartily. It's been such a long time since a MacBook Pro receive such universal praise across broad.

In fact, it is so positively good that tech buzz these days are centred around a 14 inch makeover of the current 13" model, emulating the enhancements presently experienced, in the MacBook Pro 16" update.

I’m two days into ownership and everything looks great so far and performance is astonishing. I’d don’t have the size and weight issues many complain about as I’m coming from a 17” MBP so the 16” is svelte in comparison.
I know right!

I once had an Acer Aspire 8930 multimedia laptop which weighed in at 4.1kg. That thing was insane to carry around. Over the last 10 years, I have never bought a system that exceeded 4.5 pounds. All of my thin and light, gaming notebook hovered around that figure.

The MacBook Pro 16" is slightly lighter at 4.3 pounds and also slimmer. Most importantly it has a larger screen, which is so comfortable to use on the go.

P.S. I do have mine hooked up to a 30" monitor when I am at my desk.
 

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I just bought a 16in MBP about 2 weeks ago once they hit referb to replace my mid 2015. Had a good feeling about this model despite having never touched one and went for an upper middle of the road model with highest CPU/GPU and 2tb / 32gb. Extremly happy it so far. Love the sound. Love its gaming ability on top of being a great video editing workstation.
That's definitely a high-end config!
 

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Well this is a suspiciously well written and long review 🤨 most of it reads like marketing material.

Glad you’re enjoying your machine, I am as well.

How hot is the area above the touch bar getting while you’re plugged into that monitor? How is the fan noise?
 

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I believe someone could be this relieved and happy to finally get a good Mac again, though personally I’d like some of his koolaid because I can never be that happy about anything anymore. I don’t think I ever could!

:p

I’d say the base 16”er is one of Apple’s best ever MacBook deals, especially considering it can frequently be found for 10% off or more. It’s not perfect, but it highlights how crazy and bad the value on the 2016-19 Touch Bar models was. Apple pushed its greediness way too far and it had to correct that in a way that could generate a lot of positive press and reviews, like this OP.

I’m happy with mine for the most part, graphics especially. Given the light gaming that I do I’ve not seen it unable to manage 60 FPS at native resolution. Guess I need some more demanding and modern titles.
 
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Well this is a suspiciously well written and long review ? most of it reads like marketing material.
Glad you’re enjoying your machine, I am as well.
Why, thank you! ? I'll always love to write, unfortunately I never really had the flair for it. This is perhaps the closest I gotten to a genuine compliment. Sad right? ?

How hot is the area above the touch bar getting while you’re plugged into that monitor? How is the fan noise?
The area above the Touch Bar gets ever so slightly warm, while doing low intensity stuff like watching Netflix or surfing the web, the fan is not audible to me under this level of load. [CPU PECI] 58 degrees, [CPU Proximity] 53 degrees, fans spin at about 1850/1717 RPM, give or take 50 RPM, since I do have turbo boost on.

The fans do spin up to maximum RPM when I am exporting a video on FCPX, simultaneously playing WoW on my external monitor at 1920x1200, and watching Netflix on the MacBook Pro display.

Even then the sound of the fan while noticeable, was fairly pleasant.

I am not too worried about heat in this area, it's designed to be a heat dissipation point, similar to my previous thin and light gaming notebooks with a unibody design, the Razer Blade 14" 2013 as well as the Razer Blade 14" 2015.
 
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New to this thread so "Hi". I'm 3 hours in with my 16" Pro. I love it but man it's heavy! Coming form a 12" Macbook that is. Love the keyboard. Still setting up to my liking but glad I decided to buy a computer that should last me 5+ years.
 
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Great to hear that you love your computer so much - Apple really did nail it this time around - excellent screen, battery life, even the GPU is right up their with some of nvidia's better offerings between the 1650 and 1660ti... amazing speakers... it's near perfect and what the MacBook Pro should have always been.

Currently happy as a clam with my XPS 15 that I got from a steal of a deal on, but if I was in the market today I would definitely have the 16" MacBook Pro as top 3 to consider - the only thing that really hurts me is that Solidworks is not available on Mac and Boot Camp / Parallels is far from perfect.
 

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Great to hear that you love your computer so much - Apple really did nail it this time around - excellent screen, battery life, even the GPU is right up their with some of nvidia's better offerings between the 1650 and 1660ti... amazing speakers... it's near perfect and what the MacBook Pro should have always been.

Currently happy as a clam with my XPS 15 that I got from a steal of a deal on, but if I was in the market today I would definitely have the 16" MacBook Pro as top 3 to consider - the only thing that really hurts me is that Solidworks is not available on Mac and Boot Camp / Parallels is far from perfect.
I got a good deal on the 16". It was £260 cheaper from Amazon than Apple. Decided to go for the 1TB model.
 
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I got a good deal on the 16". It was £260 cheaper from Amazon than Apple. Decided to go for the 1TB model.
That's awesome! I really wish the MacBook Pro was competitive at the time I purchased my laptop - I think it was March of last year.

I got my XPS 15 for $1250 after taxes from Best Buy last year - purchased an additional 1 year warranty through Dell for $50 so I'm covered with accidental coverage until January 2021. Also purchased 32 GBs of RAM for like $120 and a 1TB Samsung SSD for $250. So I got one hell of a computer for about $1600. If I went the Apple route at the time, I would have paid double that, and Apple's previous gen graphics cards were not good whatsoever. My midrange 1050 Ti trounces all the previous generation.

Overall it's been good being on the PC side, there are aches and pains, especially with little quirks that Dells have (I have to shut off my computer as the XPS 15 infamously wakes up from sleep without fail), but it's been good.
 
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Great to read some love in this forum for a change. 😀
Agreed. I stopped coming here for the most part because all it is is people bitching about everything under the sun instead of dealing with minor annoyances like rational human beings.

@OP I absolutely adore mine. The only thing I wish it had (that others will say otherwise) is the butterfly keyboard, I actually adore that keyboard. The new one is good too but I still like the Butterfly best.
 
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New to this thread so "Hi". I'm 3 hours in with my 16" Pro. I love it but man it's heavy! Coming form a 12" Macbook that is. Love the keyboard. Still setting up to my liking but glad I decided to buy a computer that should last me 5+ years.

Congrats on your new MacBook Pro 16", glad you love it. 😊

I got a good deal on the 16". It was £260 cheaper from Amazon than Apple. Decided to go for the 1TB model.

That's a really good deal. 👍

I was actually planning to purchase the base model i7, but chance upon a good offer($453USD discount) on the base i9 model.

I got my XPS 15 for $1250 after taxes from Best Buy last year - purchased an additional 1 year warranty through Dell for $50 so I'm covered with accidental coverage until January 2021. Also purchased 32 GBs of RAM for like $120 and a 1TB Samsung SSD for $250. So I got one hell of a computer for about $1600. If I went the Apple route at the time, I would have paid double that.

Got to love the upgradability of the XPS 15. 👍

While I love that the MacBook Pro 16", offers so much bang for buck with the base models, upgrades do add up quickly. Especially if you miss out on store discounts, just to get said custom configuration. Then again, people who do need 8TB of SSD or 64GB of Ram, would probably be able to afford it.

But for the average Joe, it's a lot of dough.

Apple's previous gen graphics cards were not good whatsoever. My midrange 1050 Ti trounces all the previous generation

The last competitive graphics card in a MacBook Pro was probably Nvidia's Geforce GT 750m, it's been a really long time but I am glad AMD Navi architecture Radeon Pro GPUs, proof to be rather aggressive, performance wise, at its rated TDP.

@OP I absolutely adore mine. The only thing I wish it had (that others will say otherwise) is the butterfly keyboard, I actually adore that keyboard. The new one is good too but I still like the Butterfly best.
Great that you are enjoying your new MacBook Pro.😊

Personally I have never owned a MacBook with a butterfly keyboard, from what I hear the response towards the typing experience, are quite polarising. I am glad that at least for you, the experience was good.


OP, congrats on your new baby, and I'm glad you're loving your new purchase.

Enjoy your new machine :)
Thank you. 😊

It's been absolutely fantastic, a beast of a machine, decked out in unibody finery, tuned to perfection.
 

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New to this thread so "Hi". I'm 3 hours in with my 16" Pro. I love it but man it's heavy! Coming form a 12" Macbook that is. Love the keyboard. Still setting up to my liking but glad I decided to buy a computer that should last me 5+ years.
Planning on doing the same, and like you I expect it'll be a big adjustment from the 12inch. But with the iPad Pro/Mini at home/iMac at work, I feel like I can get by in a pinch with iPad for mobility, and having the extra space/power/real estate of the 16 will be good for everyday use (working at night on the sofa, for example).
 
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I have a late 2013 13" and I'm seriously considering a 16" MBP. I don't need a powerful GPU and the full power usage of the dGPU of the 16" when connecting an external screen is really concerning. It's the best way to kill a component before the rest of the machine goes. It's most likely an AMD driver issue so it might be fixed in the future, but it seems unlikely it will happen because it's been there for years (it seems). I'm planning to keep my next machine for 6 years, too, so having a GPU die on me in 3 years' time is not an option. But that is really the only thing that worries me if I would buy a 16". The update is so very tempting in so many ways: screen, keyboard, specs, ... Good luck with yours & enjoy it!
 

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I love the new macbook pro 16 inch, i wish the keyboard had slightly more travel considering I'm coming from the thinkpad line, but going back to scissor switch has been such a huge improvement.

I use unity so having a dGPU is pretty important. So far no problems. I code primarily based on only the 16 inch screen.
 
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I have a late 2013 13" and I'm seriously considering a 16" MBP. I don't need a powerful GPU and the full power usage of the dGPU of the 16" when connecting an external screen is really concerning. It's the best way to kill a component before the rest of the machine goes. It's most likely an AMD driver issue so it might be fixed in the future, but it seems unlikely it will happen because it's been there for years (it seems). I'm planning to keep my next machine for 6 years, too, so having a GPU die on me in 3 years' time is not an option. But that is really the only thing that worries me if I would buy a 16". The update is so very tempting in so many ways: screen, keyboard, specs, ... Good luck with yours & enjoy it!

Firstly thank you for the well wishes. I am indeed enjoying it. 😃

Personally I do have my MacBook Pro 16" connected to an external monitor, running at a resolution of 1920 x 1200, 60Hz. It works pretty well with no excess heat or noise, this is with the MacBook Pro 16" display in operation. The fans do ramp up slightly in clamshell mode, presumably because it is harder to displace heat with the screen down.

From what I am reading some(not all) users are experiencing power draw of about 19-20 watts on the AMD GPUs while connected to higher resolution displays, that's not a lot of power compared to the rated TGP of 50 watts, hardly full power at all. Furthermore considering that the Window's RX version of the same card with 2 less CUs is rated at 85 watts, premature GPU failure due to 20 watts worth of heat is a highly improbable scenario.

Having said that, since your 13" is working and you don't actually need a discrete GPU, it is probably more prudent to wait for a product that satisfies your usage criteria.
 

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From what I am reading some(not all) users are experiencing power draw of about 19-20 watts on the AMD GPUs while connected to higher resolution displays, that's not a lot of power compared to the rated TGP of 50 watts, hardly full power at all. Furthermore considering that the Window's RX version of the same card with 2 less CUs is rated at 85 watts, premature GPU failure due to 20 watts worth of heat is a highly improbable scenario.
Not exactly. The CPU's TDP is 45W but the GPU's is lower, probably around 25W on its own. What you get is that this one component goes full throttle all the time when you use the internal screen simultaneously with an external screen. Not many people complail because the casing can handle 85W continuously. So when the CPU isn't busy, the fans don't necessarily rev up. It's only using 25% of the total that the machine can cope with.

But when you look locally, the GPU is staying hot all the time. It's a bit like reving your engine to 8k the whole time. The metal work and seats and everything else on your car may be pristine but your engine will burn out. I've seen this happen in a couple of variations in several laptops (usually with the cpu) and it's just not good for longevity.I remember a post in the megathread claiming it started with an AMD driver update. It's quite possible it's not Apple's fault but it's still impacting their machines and it should be fixed.

[edit] It seems like I made a mistake. TGP for the 5500M is 50W indeed. Still, to push the same amount of pixels, in some scenarios the GPU uses as little as 3-4W and in others 18-20W. It's not like all the CUs need to be active because there's no 3D processing going on, so the heat is most likely very local in one area of the chip. So I still stand by my argument :)
 
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Just picked up a MBP 16 - 32GB RAM, quad-core i9 2.4GHz, 2TB SSD, 8GB AMD.
Pretty happy, but for more context...

So, I'm a long-term Apple 'on and offer.'

By that, I mean I always hated original MacOS - Amiga and others were superior by far, but history has let Apple claim innovations and 'firsts' (MS as well) that weren't theirs in reality outside of Xerox Parc). Went on to be a software engineer and architect primarily for Unix and Linux systems.. and at one point, post OSX, I decided to give it a try, as well - the hardware seemed decent-ish, and thank God, it was a blend of NextStep and BSD, so - Unix. I could in theory at least continue to use the open source and other software I needed and expected.

First MBP was waiting until they offered Core 2 Duo, and bought fairly high end in a 15" MBP.
Machine was pretty decent, but the OS (was something like Leopard, maybe?) gave me fits daily - if you're going to have UNix underpinnings, stop making things so annoying or difficult, like just doing non-Bonjour/non-AFS file sharing (e.g. NFS, showmount, /etc/exports, ... ... ). Daily I was considering just throwing out the OS and installing Linux on it.

I adjusted well enough over time, and it was useful as I still had Windows and Linux VMs but could use some of the software I needed natively on OSX, and after Snow Leopard, besides OSX threads being inherently slower than either any *nix-based OS, or indeed, Windows in many cases, it was pretty decent. I've had iPhones since the first one, with only a brief foray into a POS Samsung Android that would crash constantly, now iPhone 11 Pro Max work partially paid for, and + pair of watches, iPads for wife and I.

Stayed since. 13" Santa Rosa white macbook I maxxed RAM out on until I was crushing it, then a MBP15", ugraded until I was crushing it, 13" MBP briefly while I was buying the 'baby MBPs' for my wife, until 2016, where my 2011 15" MBP CTO was still ok performance-wise, but I needed more than 16GB and I kept banging up on the (upgraded) storage getting full, both of which led to more beachballs and getting pissed off.

Looked at the 2016 models with a whole lot of meh. Lose ports I need, continued questionable thermals, loss of upgrade-ability, and I believe they had started with the 'keyboard guaranteed to fail.' Had wanted to buy a new MBP higher end, but they had nothing to sell me (that I would buy). OMG, and that stupid touch bar, but worse - no physical ESC key - WTF Apple? Stupid != 'brave' (Apple's idiotic statements many of us remeber when we were all WTFing on their 'design' choices, etc.)

I wound up buying someone's slightly used 2015 retina near-top spec for a good savings, and used it, but the 16GB and now 1TB storage became limiting over time, while Apple kept releasing 'who cares?' upgrades, still not 32GB RAM option, etc. As years passed I was getting pissed - there was no laptop suitable for me to be willing to give Apple $ for, literally. I have a Dell Surfacebook clone for work, with pen...Windows has improved, and Linux for Windows subsystem actually has become surprisingly good, but I really didn't want it as my true primary system.

The 2019" MBP 16 is literally the first system Apple released that I would, and did, buy, in several years.
Has an ESC key, has > 2 TB/USB-C ports, has a 'normal' keyboard again, has a 32GB (and more) RAM option, 2TB storage isn't too unreasonable on $, plus they finally updated the bezel width so pretty much the old 15" is now a 16", and 8 core CPU...nice. I could have probably have been good with the 6 core for reduced thermals, knowing it's indeed still a MBP, a compromise of thermal performance vs Apple design, etc. I was considering waiting for the updated MBP 13" - with the ESC key, normal KB, 2TB SSD or larger, 32GB RAM and a quad or 6 core option, I could make that work, as when not traveling I'm connected to a 38" LCD or a pair of 27"s.

Aside from what seems to be a known issue (not seeing anything besides the SSD in iStat Menus sensors...sigh), and the shock of how big the trackpad is (enormous! But I use a Japanese take on the M570 nowadays anyways, so don't much care, although it's always by far > Windows touchpads when using as the only trackpad device..).... it's a nice system. It's sitting here w/out fan noise with > 16GB of apps loaded up, on my 38" UWQHD LCD, going to a TB/USB-C dock, and finally all on a single cable.

Yes, it does spin up it's mini-jet-engine (AKA MBP fans) at times. Sometimes it's annoying. But far less annoying than the massive turbine sounds I'd get my 2015MBP going with multiple external LCDs + out of memory + nearly out of storage.

I'll sort whatever's going on with iStat, and yeah, maybe I'll have some buyer's remorse when the 'perfect' 13/14" MBP comes out, or at least once traveling again, but - pretty happy, other than yes, certainly, it's still at a fairly Apple-ish price tag, but I'll be keeping it 4 years or so, and short of catastrophic failures, it should serve me well. BTW, my NVidea discete GFX 2005 Core 2 Duo, white macbook, and 2011 15" MBP - are all still running. Not too bad...and it's nice that Apple is finally producing something worth buying (for me) again in the laptop lineup..
 
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