Macbook pro 2017 for gaming?

Discussion in 'MacBook Pro' started by ginofresh, Jun 7, 2017.

  1. ginofresh macrumors member

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    yes i know that i have made a lot of post about this and i know mac are not made for gaming but i never had a mac and been wanting one and getting ready to make my purchase as i just got me a barclay card! so i am thinking about the 2017 macbook pro with these spec

    • 2.9GHz quad-core Intel Core i7 processor, Turbo Boost up to 3.9GHz
    • 16GB 2133MHz LPDDR3 memory
    • 512GB SSD storage
    • Radeon Pro 560 with 4GB memory
    now i do plan on having bootcamp on it just for overwatch or some other highend games but will i been okay to play high end games? and is this better then the 2016 model?
     
  2. BuCkDoG macrumors 6502

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    This model is better than the 2016 model as some of the benchmarks that came out like a couple hours ago show 5% at best gains on the GPU but about 20% increase in CPU performance so thats a plus. The GPU is merely a rebadged 460 card but should still be plenty for most games. The most interesting thing though is the eGPU support natively. With that support officially from apple, gaming on a mac is a legit thing now. Granted I would still bootcamp into windows and play your games there for obvious reasons, but at least you get to harness the power of the eGPU for high end gaming on your laptop.
     
  3. jerryk macrumors 68040

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    I don't game much, but from everything I have heard a windows computer will be better at most games. I like Windows machines because I use CUDA features only available on NVIDIA GPUs to speed my work.
     
  4. vipergts2207 macrumors 68000

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    I game with decent settings on my 2016 MBP. And as mentioned with eGPU support, when the internal GPU becomes a bit of a slouch in a couple years, go eGPU.
     
  5. htc fan macrumors 6502

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    I would say get a cheaper MacBook pro and built a gaming rig .
     
  6. leman macrumors G3

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    The 460/560 will run any contemporary game, albeit not on highest settings. I certainly wouldn't recommend it for competitive first person shooters ( although I do play PUBG on it and doing okish). It will run overwatch like a charm.
     
  7. theitsage Suspended

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    With official support for eGPU, there's no need to buy top of the line discrete graphics card. Get the base model, spend money on SSD upgrade and an eGPU. I'm getting 48 FPS on this RX 580 + Sonnet Breakaway eGPU via Thunderbolt 2 speed. It should be faster on the 2017 MBP with Thunderbolt 3 speed.

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  8. vipergts2207 macrumors 68000

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    eGPU support won't be available at the consumer level until next year, at least on the MacOS side of things.
     
  9. theitsage Suspended

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    This was done in 10.12.4 using Goalque's automate-eGPU script. Apple's official support means eGPU performance will improve and less work for those who want to use it.
     
  10. killawat macrumors 65816

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    Doing a double take on that eGFX box....

    How did you get a Breakaway eGFX so quickly after the announcement. I didn't even know this existed until Monday lol. Is it better than the node?
     
  11. ZapNZs macrumors 68020

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    Have you considered the iMac Pro? It is going to represent a pro-level workstation with specs that should make it a fantastic gaming system, and a workstation of such a good value that you may not be able to build a gaming PC on your own with the same specs for the money.

    The iMac Pro is going to be epic. It is going to be an insane value with insane performance. For those needing a lot of power, the combination of a lower-end Mac laptop + an iMac Pro may be the power solution that Apple has been lacking for some time. Given the higher costs of eGPUs, and the fact that the entry level iMac Pro is going to use an 8 core CPU...

    Like...the iMac Pro is probably going to change Apple's gaming/VR image completely.
     
  12. kevinkyoo macrumors 6502a

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    Please don't. It's a good value on the side of developers and the like who use the computer primarily for their work. It starts at $5000. If he's interested in VR, he can build a PC of 7700K/1600 with a GTX 1070 for anywhere between ~$1000-2000 and do just fine.

    Yes you cannot build a well-specced machine like the iMac Pro, but that's assuming that you as a professional will use the multi-cored Xeon chip to its fullest with the 5K screen. For all we know, OP could be satisfied with a less powerful MacBook Pro.

    My suggestion is, if you're really wanting to game, build a PC. The value you get out of that rather than going with a MacBook Pro will be infinitely better.

    If you're using your computer for your work first and gaming much less, cheapest MacBook Pro 15" with an eGPU down the line.
     
  13. fokmik macrumors 68030

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    I can help you only with this
    2016 model with 450 in league of legends i get around 45 fps at 1200 resolution
    With 2017 model 555 in same game i get a stady 60 fps so i dont know why,is the cpu or the gpu but in this perspective im happy
     
  14. ZapNZs macrumors 68020

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    The cheapest 15-inch MacBook Pro that would fit the OP's needs is $2,600.
    Let's say low-cost eGPU enclosures come out that can be purchased for $200
    A 1080 ti is around $700 IIRC
    A nice 27-inch 4k display is around $500

    If the OP wants a Mac, and is not interested in a Windows gaming PC, the pricing of the iMac Pro isn't that much of a stretch from a MacBook Pro + the other accessories...I'm not saying it is the right choice, but given the pricing of both options, wouldn't at least giving it consideration make sense?
     
  15. magbarn macrumors 68000

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    Lol, you could build a $2000 machine today with a 7700K + 1080ti that will match and likely beat any Vega chips that will be in the $5000 iMac pro base price. Of course we're talking about gaming here, not the specialized use like the fastest 4K FCPX editing machine available.
     
  16. kevinkyoo macrumors 6502a

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    Who says you need a 1080Ti? A 980Ti used can run ~ $250-300 and can do VR just fine. 4K is still not ran perfectly by a 1080Ti - people go for 1440p still.
     
  17. bartvk macrumors 6502

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    You're saying you are going into debt just to get a consumer product? If so, I personally think that's very unwise.
     
  18. Pangalactic macrumors 6502

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    I have a 1080Ti at home, and I can tell you that EVERYTHING runs at max settings at 4k at around 60 FPS.

    If you want to game on a Macbook, then the best solution is to buy any one you want and an external GPU like Bizon, you will get an Nvidia card which is much better for games and Adobe stuff and have the best of both worlds.
     
  19. ginofresh thread starter macrumors member

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    No the whole reason for me to get my Barclay card was for me to get a Mac I am not going into debt just because I am bored it something I been wanting
     
  20. UL2RA Suspended

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    FYI, you can't upgrade the SSD (or the RAM) in the MacBook Pro.

    As for gaming, it will play most games on at least mid settings. eGPUs will certainly make gaming a lot better, though.
     
  21. theitsage Suspended

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    Sonnet and AMD sent me the enclosure and the RX 580 in April to review. There's a reason Apple chose this enclosure for its dev kit. You can read the full review here.

    What I meant is to get the MBP with base iGPU/dGPU then upgrade the SSD during the BTO.
     
  22. PBG4 Dude macrumors 68030

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    My 1070-based Alienware I bought last Fall can output Borderlands 2 at 4K, but this is an older game. I don't know what the FPS was as I don't know how to activate on-screen counter but it was quite playable and definitely didn't stutter even during battles.
     
  23. UL2RA Suspended

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    Ahh ... gotcha.
     
  24. koyoot macrumors 603

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    Yes, and no.
     
  25. killawat macrumors 65816

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    I use mine AW 15 1070 at 120 hz 1080p and 60 hz 1440p. I do remember 4k being a bit slower but surprisingly smooth.
     

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