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Cletus989

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Can the new MacBook Pro run a 4K tv at 60hz? If I get a new MacBook Pro I would want to use a 4K tv through hdmi. The apple dongle says it only does 4K at 30hz. Is there another cable out that will work at 60hz?
 
^ But I can drive two 4K monitors at 60hz via displayport on my Late 2013 15"? There has to be a way to convert that signal to HDMI after 3 years of sitting around, no?
 
MBP 2016 can and have GPU complain with VP9 and H265.

VP9 its important because google streaming 4k YouTube with this codec.

This is a must to go for a MBP 2016.
 
^ But I can drive two 4K monitors at 60hz via displayport on my Late 2013 15"? There has to be a way to convert that signal to HDMI after 3 years of sitting around, no?
HDMI 4k@60Hz with the 2016 MBPs IS POSSIBLE

USB-C spec only provides for HDMI 1.4b (4k@30Hz). This is what Apple's dongle is converting and using. This makes sense because the dongle was made for the 2015 rMB.

Thunderbolt 3 provides for HDMI 2.0 (4k@60Hz). There isn't a lot of support for Thunderbolt 3 yet, so the dongle game is a bit sparse, but it's happening. Belkin has such an adapter on the way.

http://www.belkin.com/us/F2CU038-Belkin/p/P-F2CU038/

The key is going to be making sure the dongle you get is using Thunderbolt spec and not USB-C spec to make the magic happen.
 
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HDMI 4k@60Hz with the 2016 MBPs IS POSSIBLE

USB-C spec only provides for HDMI 1.4b (4k@30Hz). This is what Apple's dongle is converting and using. This makes sense because the dongle was made for the 2015 rMB.

Thunderbolt 3 provides for HDMI 2.0 (4k@60Hz). There isn't a lot of support for Thunderbolt 3 yet, so the dongle game is a bit sparse, but it's happening. Belkin has such an adapter on the way.

http://www.belkin.com/us/F2CU038-Belkin/p/P-F2CU038/


The key is going to be making sure the dongle you get is ysing Thunderbolt spec and not USB-C spec to make the magic happen.

Okay cool, so it's doable to get that signal out via HDMI just a bit of a hassle and barely possible as of this writing.
 
http://www.belkin.com/us/F2CU038-Belkin/p/P-F2CU038/

The key is going to be making sure the dongle you get is using Thunderbolt spec and not USB-C spec to make the magic happen.
Wow $60? I'll probably need this too, but wish Belkin would spare my wallet.

This (and the one posted afterwards) says it's a USB-C adapter and NOT thunderbolt 3. I had also read the USB spec wouldn't allow 4k@60hz, but the products being posted seem to contradict that.
 
Wow $60? I'll probably need this too, but wish Belkin would spare my wallet.

This (and the one posted afterwards) says it's a USB-C adapter and NOT thunderbolt 3. I had also read the USB spec wouldn't allow 4k@60hz, but the products being posted seem to contradict that.
I have 3 different Club3D 4k@60Hz converters. One is USB-C.

I have used it only with real USB-C.
 
I have 3 different Club3D 4k@60Hz converters. One is USB-C.

I have used it only with real USB-C.
Interesting. Well, that makes my search easier. Have you (or anyone else) found a straight USB-C to HDMI cable that supports 4k@60hz? Or is my only choice an adapter?
 
If you also have the option of using DisplayPort, I recommend using that instead of HDMI. A simple USB-C cable to DisplayPort should be sufficient to run 4k/60Hz.
 
Interesting. Well, that makes my search easier. Have you (or anyone else) found a straight USB-C to HDMI cable that supports 4k@60hz? Or is my only choice an adapter?
All my ->HDMI 2.0 are active converters.
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If you also have the option of using DisplayPort, I recommend using that instead of HDMI. A simple USB-C cable to DisplayPort should be sufficient to run 4k/60Hz.
Club3D converter is also active. I don't have it.
 
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I would love this, but my TV only has HDMI.
I use the corresponding HDMI 2.0 converter from Club3D.
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OP needs HDMI, not display port. I'm using DP over here, but that wasn't the question.
The point is that TB3 has DisplayPort 1.2, so you can get a converter to HDMI 2.0, which is weaker.
 
I was strictly wanting hdmi cause my tv doesn't have DisplayPort. So it sounds like it's possible just might have to wait for an adapter to be developed
 
I was strictly wanting hdmi cause my tv doesn't have DisplayPort. So it sounds like it's possible just might have to wait for an adapter to be developed
There's already a converter which I use with my PC.
 
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Why choose a dongle over a straight cable?
I would for sure always go with the cable over dongle. My question was pertaining to the video standard. Should I go USB c to DP or USB c to hdmi 2.0 for the best 4K@60Hz performance? I currently can't find a USB c to hdmi 2.0 cable.
 
I would for sure always go with the cable over dongle. My question was pertaining to the video standard. Should I go USB c to DP or USB c to hdmi 2.0 for the best 4K@60Hz performance? I currently can't find a USB c to hdmi 2.0 cable.
I believe this cable is "in the works".
 
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