For a long time the choice of my next laptop has been narrowed down to the upcoming MBP and the HP 8710w. I need a laptop for my visual usage. I use programs such as 3dsmax, autocad, the entire adobe family etc and I need a laptop that can handle these. There isnt much I can say about the MBP, its really a great laptop in terms of design and performance and best of all, its a mac. However, since I need windows to run some of these programs the only option is bootcamp (Parallells and vmware dont support hardware). It then becomes difficult when multitasking between photoshop for example in leopard and 3dsmax in xp. The upcoming MBP will probably be quicker and better than the hp, and virtua programs are improving all the time. The HP 8710w has one really big advantage though: the Nvidia Quadro FX 3600M graphics card. A very good openGL card optimized for visual work. The highres screen has been said to be as good as the mbp's, but overall the design is not as good. Its biggest disadvantage is VISTA. I just hate it to be honest. What do you people think? Has anyone had any experience with the 8710w? Are the any architects and designers on macrumors who can use the mbp efficiently? Ps. Asking mac users on a macbased site about a choice between a mac or a pc seems risky, but I have good faith in you people.