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robbieduncan said:
We'll have to wait for an Intel native Doom 3 first. Even then I doubt that the new MacBooks will be able to play Doom 3 at full resolution (1440x900) with all the effects turned on!

Not a chance, but with them turned down, the x1600 could handle medium quality :)
 
robbieduncan said:
We'll have to wait for an Intel native Doom 3 first. Even then I doubt that the new MacBooks will be able to play Doom 3 at full resolution (1440x900) with all the effects turned on!

My Dell Inspiron XPS Gen2 (2.13Ghz Pentium-M, 2GB RAM, Go6800 Ultra 256) runs Doom 3 at 1920x1200 with all the effects on, and it's smooth as butter.

Although I will most likely sell my PBG4 1.5 for a MacBook, I strongly doubt that the MacBook is the fastest laptop ever.
 
well, not quite

Airforce said:
Should be exactly the same.

They both use the same hardware.
well the imac should be slightly faster, they have a little bit faster processor in them. but the differences should be marginal.
 
nataku said:
that MacBook is some laptop! I totally expected it to perform on that level. I hope they can even improve it more before they get released to the public.

And to think that some people were disgusted that Intel is going to be inside future Macs. tsk tsk tsk. :)
While the decision to go Intel was questioned, I dont think the performance of the machines (mactels) was ever in question.

The Intel PB is a good machine no doubt about that, but it has yet to get the admiration and affection of the Mac faithful. Big Brother is watching you Mr. 'MacBook Pro' ;)
 
Go go powerbook pro

well, this just makes my day, i have been drooling over the new powerbook pros (i, along with many others am revolting against the macbook name) and this just adds to the puddle on my desk. I want one bad, i mean real bad...
 
evilbert420 said:
My Dell Inspiron XPS Gen2 (2.13Ghz Pentium-M, 2GB RAM, Go6800 Ultra 256) runs Doom 3 at 1920x1200 with all the effects on, and it's smooth as butter.

Although I will most likely sell my PBG4 1.5 for a MacBook, I strongly doubt that the MacBook is the fastest laptop ever.
Any chance of a benchmark? How many FPS is butter? ^__^
 
Awww.... no 3GHz SITLL STEVE!

But the MacBook Pro seems to be really fast anyways...

Some_Big_Spoon said:
So do all of us that have been saying for years that the G4 PB's are overclocked pieces of garbage get apologies from the rabid fans who called us heretics?

The mind boggles..

I'm perfectly happy with my Rev. C 12" PowerBook. It is by far the best laptop I've had the pleasure of working with. Not garbage by any means.
 
I by no means require super speeds, but it's good to see that there have been such improvements! Keeps apple competitive... I like it. More reason now than ever to buy a mac...
 
these numbers are starting to look good for the intel macs and its nice to see that. personaly, they dont offer anything shattering for me to want to get one but thats due to the fact that i got a new Vaio laptop and that I have no money :p
 
forumBuddy said:
This results are totaly expected in my opinion. So basically new Intel chip runs clock for clock as fast as G5. That's actually a compliment to good ol' G5.

I however have issues with their playback numbers, my dual 2.0 G5 runs 1080p videos at close to 80% on each CPU - meaning 160-180% total - whereas they make it as if it's running at no more than 60% - that's not correct.


Their numbers are fine. Saying 60% on a dual processor machine means 60% on each processor (or 60% total if the load isn't evenly distributed).

Also, not all 1080ps are created the same. Depending on the bitrate, the movie and whether it's intense action or slower scenes, and the audio format used, it will take a differnet amount of processor to decode.
 
Maxx Power said:
Yep, seems like that good ole' "Hundreds of instructions in flight...." was just boasting for the G5. Efficiency is the key. I can't recall the exact data from Arstechnica years back about the original Pentium M that pave the way for today's Core Duo, or double yonah, whatever, that stated the number of pipes for Int and Fp of the Pentium M core is nothing compared to the Athlon or the G5.

The Pentium M and Yonah are wide processors (many function unit) much like the G5 (PPC 970) and unlike the Pentium 4's narrow and very deep design (large number of pipeline stages). They all can have a lot of instruction in flight at once... so you statement above is barking up the wrong tree.
 
Ok, that is enough. I can't take it anymore. I am going to buy one now. I tried to hold off until the real Mac Book Pros come out next year but I'll just get the low end Mac Book Pro and sell my Powerbook G4. Bah! You people make me sick, I bet you all work for Apple!
:eek:
 
Small Note:

On the last day of Macworld 2006 I revisited the prototype MacBooks and performed a series of tests to measure the new system's performance.


illegalprelude said:
these numbers are starting to look good for the intel macs and its nice to see that. personaly, they dont offer anything shattering for me to want to get one but thats due to the fact that i got a new Vaio laptop and that I have no money :p

Also consider that over the last few months expect some updates to the OS and tweaking to the PowerBooks*. When the PowerBook* gets released THAT is when Apple goes to work. I fully expect updates that bring better power management along with some kick butt updates in Leopard in 2007 that take better advantage of the new dual cores that Apple will be releasing over the next 12 months.
 
this move to Intel opens up a whole new world for macs. Im particularly interested on where the mac gaming industry would go. Higher framerates! I hope to see tons of new games for Macs in the next coming years, especially mmorpgs (my fave game genre). Has anyone seen the screenshot of the Intel version of WoW? If my memory serves me right, i saw 100fps in that screenshot. I hope it will run waaaaaay better than the current version.
 
For all the G5 bashing, remember that no one is comparing these Intels to the Quad. Quads are still amazing machines, and remember that all PowerMacs can support a whole lot more RAM than the 2 Gigs in the iMacs and MacBook Pros, which for a lot of people is a whole lot more important than any of these benchmarks.

Not to mention that Mr. Anderson just got a Quad, so you G5 haters better relax or feel the wrath. :p
 
evilbert420 said:
My Dell Inspiron XPS Gen2 (2.13Ghz Pentium-M, 2GB RAM, Go6800 Ultra 256) runs Doom 3 at 1920x1200 with all the effects on, and it's smooth as butter.

Although I will most likely sell my PBG4 1.5 for a MacBook, I strongly doubt that the MacBook is the fastest laptop ever.

Wow I'd like to know your definition of "all the effects" and "smooth as butter". I had a 6800GT on a desktop PC and I couldn't max it out at 1680x1050 (and I'm not considering Ultra settings). With a 7800GTX, I can max everything out on my 20" ACD, but couldn't when I had a 23" ACD at 1920x1200.

Considering the 6800Ultra Go in your setup would probably be slower than the 6800GT in a desktop setup and certainly slower than a 7800GTX, I have a hard time believing what you typed.

To have a ballpark idea, what sort of 3DMark2k3 scores or Doom 3 timedemo scores do you get?

The MacBook Pro will perform well, and no one (who's sane ;)) here is saying that it is the fastest laptop ever. However in the 1" thick and under range, it just might be among the fastest when it ships.
 
X1600 256mb

FWIW, keep in mind that the Intel System had a X1600 w/ 256 Megs, not 128 as listed here on MR...

Its time to play a great little game I got from The Simpsons: Me Wantee...today's topic: Intel PowerBook*

Although, as a student getting a laptop for college this fall, I am torn...what about Merom? If you are listening Intel, any chance I can get that about 6 months early? that would be sweet. thanks.


Lastly, is anyone besides me having a hell of a time getting onto the Apple Website, or is it just my Earthlink Cable connection? Each page loads about 1/2, then gunks up. When I try going down a level, i.e. to apple.com, it wont load. It's wierd because prior to MWSF, it was fine. Now it isnt, and nothing new on this ol' 266 Artemis (G3 All in One for those familiar). Any thoughts? Thanks people!

Macaddict06
 
Some_Big_Spoon said:
So do all of us that have been saying for years that the G4 PB's are overclocked pieces of garbage get apologies from the rabid fans who called us heretics?
The mind boggles..

Come-on get real! These dual core intel machines have just become available and are the latest tech. The G4 PB is 6 years old with basically the same chip with speed bumps.
So if you have been saying for "Years" that the PB G4 is overclocked garbage then you would have been incorrect until last week.
The new dual core intels also blow away the old Celerons and pentium-M's.:cool:
 
iBunny said:
Great improvment over the g4 powerbook :)

Yeah. Interesting to see the numbers, even if its a proto.

To compare I did the QT test with my own FW800 powerbook. Ran it twice, no other apps running, and with the performance on "better" in the power managment setup.

0.62x

With the 1.67 posting a .5x I am very happy I stuck with my gut and kept my rev A. No real reason to upgrade until a rev B MacBook for me. . .

and that makes my day. :D

(edit: I'm not saying mine is faster, just that by simple stopwatch methods, they are close to the same. No doubt the 1.67 is faster than my 1.25. )
 
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