MacBook Pro Buyers Now Facing Up to a Two-Month Wait Ahead of New Models

[mansplains]

Assuming also silver shortages in addition to the RAM shortages

The silver finish has to come from somewhere! Maybe space black will be the only option 😬

 

[Kylo83]

It’s all about the m6 re design

 

[ksec]

I hope they lower price for regular M5 MacBook Pro, I know that is a long short but I always felt it was $100 - $200 more than it should be.

 

[k1121j]

Well there’s a downside to soddered ram and ssd

 

[Aries79]

It’s all about the m6 re design

The only thing that matters for the redesign is the disappearance of the notch, I'm not sold to having an OLED screen on a Mac and the M5 will be just powerful enough.

 

[johnrlaporta]

M6 with redesign. Nothing else matters.

Actually, I need one now, and I don't want a touchscreen.

 

[tridley68]

Good things come to those that wait 👍

 

[t0rqx]

Generation five and still being manufactured with microscratches and dents in the screen.

 

[wanha]

Hope there's no notch. It's absolutely pointless and ugly.

until they can hide the whole camera and lidar system under the display, the notch is hardly pointless unless you're a fan of THICKK bezels

 

[wanha]

I've got things to say about this:

1. RAM prices don't just "suddenly" increase significantly very often, as most of the contracts are locked in longterm, so it's not like this has caught Apple by surprise.
2. Apple is the King Kong of chip customers, which means they get better terms and availability on components than just about anyone else
3. Apple would lose WAY more money by delaying the launch of M5 MBPs by months while also letting the delivery times of existing models stretch out to two months than they would if they just shipped new models with more expensive RAM

 

[CATiNTHESTORE]

The only thing that matters for the redesign is the disappearance of the notch, I'm not sold to having an OLED screen on a Mac and the M5 will be just powerful enough.

Bro that nouch doesn’t bother me at all. But I agree with without nouch it would be excellent

 

[robertosh]

I've got things to say about this:

1. RAM prices don't just "suddenly" increase significantly very often, as most of the contracts are locked in longterm, so it's not like this has caught Apple by surprise.
2. Apple is the King Kong of chip customers, which means they get better terms and availability on components than just about anyone else
3. Apple would lose WAY more money by delaying the launch of M5 MBPs by months while also letting the delivery times of existing models stretch out to two months than they would if they just shipped new models with more expensive RAM

Apple is out of the AI race, so it will be less and less interesting for chip makers. It will be hit sooner than later.

 

[Hajj.david]

Our production teams in Los Angeles can get Max chip configs through business channels, but yeah, that’s Hollywood for you. Apple tends to take care of the studios where their shows are made.

As George Carlin said….

“It’s a big club….and YOU ain’t in it.”

Anyone with a business can go to an Apple Store and register with the Apple Business team and get access to the business channels for ordering. I have a tiny company consisting of 2 people and I regularly use them to order sold out things and not wait months.

You just need s validly registered business and EIN number from the IRS

Well there’s a downside to soddered ram and ssd

Not in this case. RAM installed on the CPU die is what makes Apple Silicon so incredibly fast, cool, and allows the GPU access up to 512 GB of ram, something impossible outside of Apple Silicon.

In addition by them using their own memory modules and NANDs for storage they arent at the mercy of memory manufacturers to make DDR5 sticks.

Also most Macs now don’t used soldered storage but still custom to Apple since the M chip has the memory controller built in

 

[Hajj.david]

Apple is out of the AI race, so it will be less and less interesting for chip makers. It will be hit sooner than later.

No they aren’t, they are actively working on datacenter servers and AI hardware which directly competes with big companies like NVIDIA, AMD, Intel for chips

 

[k1121j]

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[k1121j]

Anyone with a business can go to an Apple Store and register with the Apple Business team and get access to the business channels for ordering. I have a tiny company consisting of 2 people and I regularly use them to order sold out things and not wait months.

You just need s validly registered business and EIN number from the IRS

Not in this case. RAM installed on the CPU die is what makes Apple Silicon so incredibly fast, cool, and allows the GPU access up to 512 GB of ram, something impossible outside of Apple Silicon.

In addition by them using their own memory modules and NANDs for storage they arent at the mercy of memory manufacturers to make DDR5 sticks.

Also most Macs now don’t used soldered storage but still custom to Apple since the M chip has the memory controller built in

Yep-like I said there is a downside. You can’t just buy a Mac and upgrade the memory later I don’t disagree with anything you said.

 

[neomorpheus]

Apple wont increase the MSRP price, but the new ones will now come with a 128GB SSD to compensate for the same price. 😀

 

[hoodlum90]

M6 with redesign. Nothing else matters.

It depends on how large of a price increase it gets due redesign/OLED, Memory price jump and 2nm M6 chip. Everything is pointing to a significant price jump with the M6 Mackbook.

 

[Carlson-online]

All the M4 Pro and Max are 2-3 weeks in the UK (even stock configurations)

 

[wanha]

Apple is out of the AI race, so it will be less and less interesting for chip makers. It will be hit sooner than later.

Apple are out of the AI race?

 

[RumorConsumer]

It depends on how large of a price increase it gets due redesign/OLED, Memory price jump and 2nm M6 chip. Everything is pointing to a significant price jump with the M6 Mackbook.

They often surprise us by not raising prices. I think they'll figure it out.

 

[Tim Jobs the 2nd]

This has nothing to do with a refresh, but simply a global crisis in computer parts as AI data centers are buying up everything.

So when the new models come out without a long delay in shipments, I am sure you'll admit you got this wrong.

 

[ThailandToo]

256GB RAM, pretty please?

(Ok, so in the AI era of inflated component prices, this is a pipe dream, but let me.)

I would like 1TB of Unified Memory on a 16” OLED MBP with an M6 Ultra SoC and redesigned model. I don’t care if thermal management isn’t amazing as the idea is just to get access to more Unified Memory for LLMs. I have a maxed out M3 Ultra Mac Studio. I know it’s going to be better at thermal management, but really I just want the memory. Then the M6 Ultra in the Mac Studio can be the real beast. There were a few reports Apple had tested the M3 Ultra in the MBP. I want one Mac I can take everywhere and do anything I want with it.

 

[code-m]

I don't know of any precedent for Apple bumping hardware prices mid-cycle. It'd be weird to only bump the price of M5 Pro/Max due to storage and ram prices and not base M5 or any other Mac. I think if we were going to see a price bump it would've been seen on the base M5. A clean generation jump and Apple already knew before then that ram and SSD prices were on the way up, the entire industry locked in their deals before it hit the consumer market (which is why the consumer side rose). More likely prices will hold through M5 Pro/Max, and M6 will see shrinkflation on ram and ssd upgrades ($200 per 8GB upgrade, something like that).

Apple also has that overly healthy profit margin to absorb some of the temporary pain before it raises prices.

 

[glenncashuric]

I'm probably the only person who sees the current MBP continuing through M5, M6 and probably M7 (both Pro and Max) as the "standard" MBP model and the upcoming OLED (et al) upgrade as a new higher-end Ultra model. I cannot see a new M5 Pro and M5 Max release if the laptop were just going to fade away for Christmas.