buy an ipad or any 300 dollar laptop from bestbuy/frys etc.
if all you need is web browsing why waste your money?
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MacBook Pro Buyers Remorse - am I missing something?
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buy an ipad or any 300 dollar laptop from bestbuy/frys etc.
if all you need is web browsing why waste your money?
Because he can't watch flash on an iPad? Because the $300 laptops are usually of such low quality they have lots of troubles?
One moment you're telling us MBPs are 3x overpriced compared to PC laptops, next you're telling us $300 laptops are crap. What's left?
he just said he needed something for web browsing? why on earth would he get a mbp for that?
How much longer do you think flash with be prevalent? not much, a year maybe?
and im sorry but im going to have to disagree and say that a $300 laptop is perfectly fine for web browsing there are absolutely no issues or problems for that purpose.
Thanks for the better touch tool suggestion... great app... ability to swipe and change desktops is fantastic!
I just wanna share the wealth
As a follow up to this thread, I've been beavering away on the MBP for more than a week, and the end result is, I'm sending it back. I had another pang of remorse today, 4 days before my return period is up, so I figured if I'm feeling like this, I better send it back now before it's too late and I'm stuck with it.
Whilst it is a really nice machine, it just doesn't do £905 worth of stuff for me. I have no interest in the likes of iPhoto, GarageBand, iMovie, etc, which obviously add to the cost of the device. If these are apps you would make use of, I can see how the price might be worth it. The build quality, trackpad, battery life and screen are all brilliant. It would be great if Apple had a version of OSX that cut out all the extras and in turn made the device cheaper. It would be much more palatable if I felt like I wasn't paying for software I didn't need/want.
Even after many many hours of use over this last week, there were still some usability issues, such as network shares vanishing from Finder (I kept on having to use the 'Go --- Connect to Server' option), Spaces sometimes messed up with windows flying across the screen, the trackpad would often ignore single or double finger taps (right click) - although I'm not sure if this was a problem with the trackpad, or with the OS. Also, being a neat freak, I don't like how OSX is a messy jumble of windows, programs and files scattered all over the place! Makes my blood pressure rise. In addition, my network shared photo printer had very limited options available under OSX, so was next to useless as a photo printer!
The main things I really like are how fast OSX boots (especially with an SSD) and how fast the device wakes up. However, I often got the spinning beachball on 'checking password' for a number of seconds after typing my password in which meant the MBP was, at times, slower coming out of sleep mode than my Windows 7 desktop. Is this a known issue, or just the way OSX is? Definitely the best thing about OSX is Spaces, even though it did play funny buggers at times, but I did love having my most used programs default to different spaces.
Overall, it's a lovely computer, but you really really have to be sure you're going to make full use of the software on offer before ponying up the dough. What strikes me, after owning my first Mac, is the constant talk of how Apple missed out X hardware feature to meet a certain price point, etc. We're all aware that Apple uses the profit from their hardware sales to subsidise their software, which is fine if you will make full use of that software, but if you won't, you're essentially paying extra for the hardware for software you won't use. I can appreciate why most business go with a Windows machine!
From my point of view, the best solution would be to get rid of the software extras, but make them available as a seperate purchase if the punter chooses, and make the hardware cheaper. That would definitely go some way to making me feel like I wasn't wasting money.
Michael.
Whilst it is a really nice machine, it just doesn't do £905 worth of stuff for me. I have no interest in the likes of iPhoto, GarageBand, iMovie, etc, which obviously add to the cost of the device. If these are apps you would make use of, I can see how the price might be worth it. The build quality, trackpad, battery life and screen are all brilliant. It would be great if Apple had a version of OSX that cut out all the extras and in turn made the device cheaper. It would be much more palatable if I felt like I wasn't paying for software I didn't need/want.
Even after many many hours of use over this last week, there were still some usability issues, such as network shares vanishing from Finder (I kept on having to use the 'Go --- Connect to Server' option), Spaces sometimes messed up with windows flying across the screen, the trackpad would often ignore single or double finger taps (right click) - although I'm not sure if this was a problem with the trackpad, or with the OS. Also, being a neat freak, I don't like how OSX is a messy jumble of windows, programs and files scattered all over the place! Makes my blood pressure rise
. In addition, my network shared photo printer had very limited options available under OSX, so was next to useless as a photo printer!The main things I really like are how fast OSX boots (especially with an SSD) and how fast the device wakes up. However, I often got the spinning beachball on 'checking password' for a number of seconds after typing my password in which meant the MBP was, at times, slower coming out of sleep mode than my Windows 7 desktop. Is this a known issue, or just the way OSX is? Definitely the best thing about OSX is Spaces, even though it did play funny buggers at times, but I did love having my most used programs default to different spaces.
Overall, it's a lovely computer, but you really really have to be sure you're going to make full use of the software on offer before ponying up the dough. What strikes me, after owning my first Mac, is the constant talk of how Apple missed out X hardware feature to meet a certain price point, etc. We're all aware that Apple uses the profit from their hardware sales to subsidise their software, which is fine if you will make full use of that software, but if you won't, you're essentially paying extra for the hardware for software you won't use. I can appreciate why most business go with a Windows machine!
From my point of view, the best solution would be to get rid of the software extras, but make them available as a seperate purchase if the punter chooses, and make the hardware cheaper. That would definitely go some way to making me feel like I wasn't wasting money.
Michael.
You raise some interesting points. I've never owned a Mac, and am forced to buy one for school. My decision may be similar to yours although I will be deciding between keeping the macbook after a year of school, or selling it and getting something else.
As someone coming from Windows 7, I think you're going to have a harder time than some switchers. Windows 7 takes some pretty big leaps in usability and interaction design, so I think I may be longing for some of the features that OSX is missing.
Only time will tell I suppose.
As someone coming from Windows 7, I think you're going to have a harder time than some switchers. Windows 7 takes some pretty big leaps in usability and interaction design, so I think I may be longing for some of the features that OSX is missing.
Only time will tell I suppose.
This is a very interesting thread. While I have ignored many specific issues/topics because I have never used a Mac (my "17 i7 2.66 is coming this week) and want to be surprised, I can't wait to use the OS and see how it compares to 7/xp.
That being said it doesn't matter if I hate it, as I bought it for the 1920x1200 Full HD resolution for Final Cut and offload Sxs cards with the express34 slot.
But I'm certainly excited to experience the hype. And btw I think windows 7 is a piece of SH*T.
That being said it doesn't matter if I hate it, as I bought it for the 1920x1200 Full HD resolution for Final Cut and offload Sxs cards with the express34 slot.
But I'm certainly excited to experience the hype. And btw I think windows 7 is a piece of SH*T.
I use OS X, Windows 7, and Ubuntu 10, they each have their pros and cons. There is no perfect laptop, and that's why I have three that I use for the sake of staying current with the technology. I also use my laptops for work, therefore I'm not dealing with any major limitations. Whatever I need to do I have the best OS for the job. That said when it comes to a user having just one, it's important for people to do their research before the purchase. Then once you've bought the machine it's about being patient. If one resists jumping to conclusions and gives the new laptop a chance, you will usually find they are all good, just different. Comparing one to the other with the objective of declaring one the best, is wasted time. Why compare?
It was definitely a researched purchase since I had been considering it since December 09, and I definitely feel as if I have given it a fighting chance after using it for hours and hours over the last week! Other than the few usability issues as above, the big issue for me is the price. Unfortunately, I don't think the cost/benefit ratio can be fully realised just by looking at the machine in the shop, and I suppose this is why there is a 14 day return window available if you decide it isn't for you.
At the end of the day, at least I can say I've tried it! It's just not for me, and that goes to highlight the fact that a Mac is not the right machine for everyone.