MacBook Pro from Vflyer: is it safe?

Discussion in 'Buying Tips and Advice' started by Tallest Skil, Sep 16, 2007.

  1. Tallest Skil macrumors P6

    Tallest Skil

    Aug 13, 2006
    1 Geostationary Tower Plaza
    Back story: My entire family is comprised of Mac evangelists, but the people we deal with are less than accepting at times. Case in point, my mom's school corporation forces her to have a pathetic Gateway laptop from 1997 because she teaches special education students. This comes from the flawed logic (read: outright lie) that a certain accredited program for special ed classes only works on Windows (my mom is allowed to use her five G3 iMacs and four Core 2 iMacs as student computers, though...:confused: Idiots.) when in actuality it is a web-based program. For the past five years, she's been stuck with this pathetic excuse for a computer that she leaves on her desk every night next to a sticky note that says "Steal me." (a nod to the fact that her old computer, a 17" G4 laptop, was stolen by a substitute custodian. She's had enough of not having a computer she can use anywhere in the house, and I'm tired of her using my laptop all the time.:rolleyes:

    Version for those who hate reading: My mom wants a MacBook Pro. I've found some on a site called Vflyer, which I assume is like Craigslist. However, I have no experience with either and I am wondering whether or not buying from a seller there is safe and scam-resistant or not. I know the tips: never use cash, see the device in action and person if possible, etc. I would just like some info on past experiences with this site and sites like it. Thanks.
  2. peanmaj macrumors newbie

    Sep 24, 2007
    I asked myself the same question. I am convinced that it is a 100%, bonafide scam, but I will await further inquiry before fully believing it.

    Strike 1: Ridiculously low prices for new Macbooks
    ($650 for new Macbook Pro?)
    Strike 2: No user comments as to the physical state of the particular laptop, only a copy/paste from Apple marketing

    However, such a low price was still tempting enough for me for me to investigate further. So, I contacted two Macbook sellers named "wayne thomas" and "Arthur Williams".

    Strike 3: Defies laws of probability
    I contacted both sellers at 2:48 and 3:10 AM, within 22 minutes. Wayne got back to me first nearly 13 hours later, at 3:36 PM, and (his friend) Arthur replied to me only 9 minutes later at 3:45 PM. That seems too close a response time at such a long time away from the original email. Doesn't fit laws of probability.​

    Strike 4: Two business locations separated by 2,000 miles
    In his vflyer ad, wayne says he is from chicago, illinois. In his email, wayne says he ships from California. Confusingly suspicious.​

    Strike 5: Similarity of responses?
    While wayne's English seem much less broken up than Arthur's, there was a sinking suspicion in the way they advertised. Both advised me to "email back to proceed", not a terribly common phrase. Only minor differences in expression, and the format of both replies was the same.​

    Strike 6: Both of them only accept wire transfers such as Western Union, Money Gram, or some other non-secure transfer

    I wasn't even aware of this part of their response until some googling turned up this scam article about Nigerian English bulldogs. It seems international scammers like to use and insist on untraceable wire transfers.

    I have yet to ask these folks whether they will accept Paypal payment. If they don't, Strike 7 is on its way. If they do accept Paypal, maybe then I'll back off of my conviction. I will let you know if they do. But already, as it is, both have already struck out twice. I just hope they won't read this and figure out better ways to scam other people. Let the buyer beware!
  3. seahawk09 macrumors regular

    Jul 2, 2007
    Dude do yourself and your mom a favor buy from apple direct and be happy.:) you just wouldnt want to risk it.
    I just read all about those people being scammed man even I wouldnt fall for that C$@p.
  4. bc008 macrumors 68000


    Aug 6, 2007
    if you want to save some money go refurb from apple.
    i just saved $500 on a macbook pro this morning ;)
  5. Tallest Skil thread starter macrumors P6

    Tallest Skil

    Aug 13, 2006
    1 Geostationary Tower Plaza
    Yawp. Thanks, guys. It was just a passing interest in Vflyer. Besides, $650 for a 2.3 Ghz Core 2 Duo? Yeah, right. My iBook was $250, and it's five years old. More than likely gonna go with refurb. Namaste, all. ;)

    In short: SCAM CITY, USA...... doo doot doo...
  6. ghostdog333 macrumors newbie

    Oct 5, 2007
    i contacted a vflyer seller as well. has all the markings of a scam

    - he didn't respond when i asked why the low price
    - he didn't respond when i asked if i could test the mac in person

    if your mom's a teacher, she can get a little education discount too

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