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The Iris Pro 5200 is vastly superior to the HD 630 precisely because the 630 is starved for bandwidth due to the lack of eDRAM.

Source: http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compar...Intel-HD-630-Desktop-Kaby-Lake/m8190vsm178724

I'm typing on a 2015 MBP 15 right now that I used to replace a 2016 TB MBP 15 that I had for 2 months last year that I returned due to crappy battery and keyboard. My 2015 (which has Iris Pro igpu and m370x) is definitely smoother when using the iGPU vs the 2016 machine I returned, but the 460/560 blow away the outdated m370x when you're using the dGPU. In other words, Apple shouldn't have cheaped out and used the Iris Pro version of skylake/kabylake with the TB MBP 15's to keep the higher performance while on battery power. I even use a 'hack' to force igpu when running bootcamp, saves over 2 hours in windows 10 in battery life instead of the default m370x that bootcamp usually forces you to run.

Many of the defenders here of Apple's decision to continue using Haswell in the 2015 rMBP 15 refresh was supposedly to keep the higher performing Iris Pro which wasn't available in the Skylake chips that came out in 2015. Obviously Apple wasn't so keen to keep the Iris Pro after all and now puts an inferior iGPU in the 2016/2017's 15's...
 
Can you elaborate on that link? I see the 5200 is showing a lot of green bars and + numbers but I don't really understand the comparison.

The 630 doesn't have eDRAM but the 5200 does...so does that mean with regards to the integrated graphics only that the 2015 15" MBP would be faster than the 630 in the 2017 15" MBP?

Yes, the 2015 will be faster in regards to integrated graphics compared to the 2016.
 
Since macOS High Sierra will be no more laggy UI. They already told that at the event
High Sierra was the one event that no one was really expecting. The way it was presented made it seem that the safari we are using now is just out of date and slow compared to how it's going to run on High Sierra, especially with regard to video online etc..

The only problem is by the time Apple releases it Google or its competitors will already have something out to compete. Apple should have released High Sierra a year ago to be top dog.
 
Yeah I knew is was against the 2016 but I was talking about the Intel Iris 630 in the 2017.

The 5200 will be faster than the 630 in the 2017 as well. However, this is a moot point because the 2017 has the superior dedicated GPU, which will be used for all demanding tasks.
 
The 5200 will be faster than the 630 in the 2017 as well. However, this is a moot point because the 2017 has the superior dedicated GPU, which will be used for all demanding tasks.
I agree and wouldn't it be correct that when High Sierra is released that should also help make things quicker and be an added benefit to the slower iGPU in the 2016 and 2017 MBP?
 
Difference between 640 vs 650 is 50 MHz in core speed. 1050 vs 1100 MHz. Benchmark shows 1-2% diffrence between these two dGPU.
 
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