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I find it hard to do anything serious on my 13 's screen now that I've been spoiled by my 23" 1920x1080. I can put two full size documents side by side and even better run Logic in a gigantic window so everything (mixer editor medi browser tracks) have enough room to do their thing. It all about portability when I'm not home which is why I got the 13.

I'd like to see the 13's screen stretched to the edge to make it 14.1 and around 1440x900.

I agree. I do not know why apple choose to have such a huge bezel. I personally like edge to edge displays with a minimal bezel. The older PowerBooks pulled this off much better
 
I believe it's because Mac OS X does not scale well like *gulp* Windows does(to an extent).

You have got to be kidding me. OS X scales at higher resolutions much better than Windows.

I like the Mac laptop screen resolutions just the way they are. If you really need a high resolution and it doesn't make things too small for you to see then get a 17-inch MBP. If you can afford a 15" MBP you can afford a 17-inch for a little more. Not to mention if you really need that much room then you are going to be using an external display anyway.

Much ado about nothing in this thread from a lot of people who don't know what they are talking about.
 
For a programmer resolution is everything. If I am programming and I am doing code on a 1280*800 display I can see maybe 25 lines of code at once. On a 1920*1080 screen I can upwards of 100. This makes a HUGE difference in productivity.

That comment doesn't make much sense in the context of Mac laptops. The only Mac laptop with a 1280X800 display is the 13 inch MBP and nobody is going to use a 13 inch screen, Mac or PC laptop, at 1920X1080. The highest I would want to go on a 15" MBP is 1680X1050 and still be able to see anything.
 
That comment doesn't make much sense in the context of Mac laptops. The only Mac laptop with a 1280X800 display is the 13 inch MBP and nobody is going to use a 13 inch screen, Mac or PC laptop, at 1920X1080. The highest I would want to go on a 15" MBP is 1680X1050 and still be able to see anything.

Apple can put in as a high of resolution as conceivable as long as the os can take advantage of it as I do not want tiny icons or text.
 
i would love to see a higher resolution on my 15 inch... My old dell has 1680 by 1050 and it was amazing to use.

But I have my doubts about apple releasing higher res screens. I think they are into improving the quality of the panels more then that actual resolution.
 
You have got to be kidding me. OS X scales at higher resolutions much better than Windows.

I like the Mac laptop screen resolutions just the way they are. If you really need a high resolution and it doesn't make things too small for you to see then get a 17-inch MBP. If you can afford a 15" MBP you can afford a 17-inch for a little more. Not to mention if you really need that much room then you are going to be using an external display anyway.

Much ado about nothing in this thread from a lot of people who don't know what they are talking about.



Hey, I'd love it if my 15" MBP's display was 2560x1600 and am all-hands-in gunning for higher resolutions for the refresh, but I'm trying to see Apple's side of this, and I believe that's their technical reason why their laptop displays are on the lower-resolution side of the spectrum. Vector based UI has been in both Leopard and Snow Leopards plans but keeps getting pushed.
 
That comment doesn't make much sense in the context of Mac laptops. The only Mac laptop with a 1280X800 display is the 13 inch MBP and nobody is going to use a 13 inch screen, Mac or PC laptop, at 1920X1080. The highest I would want to go on a 15" MBP is 1680X1050 and still be able to see anything.

Sony has a 1920x1080 13", which is nice. The HP Envy 13 has a 13" 1600x900, which is much better than 1280x800. I'm using a 15" 1920x1080 and I love it. My old Dell had a 1920x1200 17" display that was great as well, though quality-wise it is nowhere near as nice as the one on the Envy 15.

If apple keeps the MBP 13 at 1280x800, it would be very difficult for me to downgrade to it. It is essentially impossible to look at two documents side by side on that low of a res. And then you have the 16:10 issue with movies and TV shows. 1600x900 would be SO perfect on the MBP 13.
 
You have got to be kidding me. OS X scales at higher resolutions much better than Windows.

Nope. OSX doesn't scale. At all.

Because it doesn't have proper support for resolution independent user interface, all UI elements are the exact same size in pixels on different resolutions. What this means is that an icon that is 30x30 pixels at 1280x800 will be 30x30 pixels at 2560x1600. Because the resolution is doubled, the same icon simply looks smaller on the bigger screen.

Now, if OSX was resolution independent, at 2560x1600 that same icon could be scaled to for example 60x60 (or more or less, user adjustable) so it would appear the same size on the higher res display. The difference would be that because at 60x60 it occupies more pixels so it will look sharper and more detailed but the user interface remains the same size.

If you apply the lack of scaling and take screen size to the equation, you'll see where the problems come along. A 2560x1600 display is typically 30" and at that screen size the individual pixels making up the LCD panel are still large enough that everything isn't too small.

But if you would cram that same resolution to a 13" display, the problem would be that a single pixel is much, much smaller than on the 30" display. Due to lack of scaling, the 30x30 icon would be so small that it would be hard to see.

The benefit of having resolution independence and a higher resolution screen isn't in more desktop real estate but more detailed UI elements and more book-like fonts. If the user wishes, he could get more desktop space by scaling the user interface down at the expense of everything on the screen becoming smaller and thus harder to click and read.
 
You have got to be kidding me. OS X scales at higher resolutions much better than Windows.

? Mac OSX, as far as ive always been aware, does not scale AT ALL. Its always been one of its biggest criticisms and the main reason Apple Laptop Displays are so poor in resolution.
 
Alright, let me fire up Final Cut Pro and show you what it means for us to have a higher resolution display.

The following pictures are quite large if you're viewing them on a 13" macbook pro so I'm going to direct link them and not have them inline.

The setup:
Final Cut Pro editing 1080p footage, 16 minute project.
Here is Final Cut Pro in standard view, as seen at 1280x800, the resolution of the 13" Macbook/Macbook Pro. Notice the footage is displayed at 22%. Not big enough to work with.

http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/1900/1280av.jpg

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Now, here is that same screen, but with the screen res increased to 1920x1200. Final Cut Pro is taking up exactly 1280x800 pixels of space. Notice the screen real estate gained.

http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/5107/1280in1920.jpg

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Now let's expand Final Cut to use the space. We have many options from here. Here it is in the same configuration as was displayed on the 1280x800 shot. Notice IMMENSE amount of timeline workspace gained, as well as a bump in footage size to 33%.

http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/3799/1920standard.jpg

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Finally, we arrive at how I work: in Two Up mode. This allows the both the preview and the play windows to be displayed at a decidedly massive 50% (100% being 1920x1080, basically the whole screen).

http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/8597/1920twoup.jpg


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As you can see, screen resolution is more about fitting more on the screen at one time, easing up your workflow and making things less cramped. It's a biiiig difference.
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