I ordered my computer in February, and it was supposed to arrive April, now it got moved to July.
Maybe, but even if close all other apps and only have 200 or so tabs open, 16 GB struggles. It's easy for the average person to get to a few hundred tabs with general browsing project management. I have multiple folders with 50 to 100 bookmarks. My desktop PC currently has over 1000 tabs open right now. Each is separated into different windows so I can quickly jump between projects.Fair play but I think mine and your definitions of “general document management” are probably poles apart.
I was wondering the same. I'm wondering if OP went with the base 8/14 core M1P and that's being more problematic. I'm on the base 16" and I can compose music using several memory-intensive plugins and libraries without the fans turning on.Off topic...but a 16GB MBP is "grossly under spec'd for general document management"? In what world?
Nobody's labor is as cheap as it used to be. McDonalds pays people $21/hour where I'm at. Chinese labor is still way cheaper than American labor.
While I get your point, and recognize that the M1 machines can get into pretty serious trouble when memory gets low, I do think your workflow is far from "average".I am just saying that 16 GB is no longer a lot of ram for the average user.
He didn't mention how much RAM his desktop PC has. I am guessing it has to be 32GB or more otherwise. Trying to replicate the same workflow smoothness on a Mac should require the same amount of RAM, regardless what the Unified Memory praises we may have heard.While I get your point, and recognize that the M1 machines can get into pretty serious trouble when memory gets low, I do think your workflow is far from "average".
Doing a quick search on the memory efficiency of browsers it looks like Edge is significantly better than the competition, using as little as half of the memory of Chrome, for example. So that would partly explain the performance difference on your windows machine. Too bad a more memory efficient browser doesn't exist for macOS.
Microsoft Edge for macOS exists. Crazy, I know.While I get your point, and recognize that the M1 machines can get into pretty serious trouble when memory gets low, I do think your workflow is far from "average".
Doing a quick search on the memory efficiency of browsers it looks like Edge is significantly better than the competition, using as little as half of the memory of Chrome, for example. So that would partly explain the performance difference on your windows machine. Too bad a more memory efficient browser doesn't exist for macOS.
Oh! Hahahaha... okay, apologies. I should actually check it out. During my PhD I developed such an aversion to Word that I just flat out rejected the idea of ever touching MS software again. Maybe a tad hasty...Microsoft Edge for macOS exists. Crazy, I know.
Windows was easy to solve. It cost $400 to upgrade my PC to 128 GB of RAM. Getting that much RAM on a Mac comes with a $2400 price tag, at POS. If Apple really does see efficacy benefits with SOC it isn't translating to real-world use.While I get your point, and recognize that the M1 machines can get into pretty serious trouble when memory gets low, I do think your workflow is far from "average".
Doing a quick search on the memory efficiency of browsers it looks like Edge is significantly better than the competition, using as little as half of the memory of Chrome, for example. So that would partly explain the performance difference on your windows machine. Too bad a more memory efficient browser doesn't exist for macOS.
128 GB. And I can confirm the statement about Unified Memory.He didn't mention how much RAM his desktop PC has. I am guessing it has to be 32GB or more otherwise. Trying to replicate the same workflow smoothness on a Mac should require the same amount of RAM, regardless what the Unified Memory praises we may have heard.
I disagree. I see many people from professionals to students with similar loads. It's 2022, and the "close some programs/tabs" should be dated advice.And yes the "document management" workflow he described is apparently far from average.
When I speak to Apple about delays they say "demand for custom builds is much higher than we expected." That tell me many, if not most people don't see value in the base models.But to stay on topic; returning policies especially on actual hardware issues are indeed pushed way back, just check the Mac Studio forum.
But they’ve been doing that since the 70s!Well, lockdowns do not lead to a recession, printing money out of thin air like there's no tomorrow will...
That gives us in the Western world a lot to think about.I think his point is that there's a whole lot of variables beyond just labor costs that dictate why American companies continue to manufacture in China. I can tell you firsthand from relatives who are higher level executives at some of these companies, the average person on the street over here has no idea how good the whole supply chain is in China. Nothing we do here can compete at the same scale unfortunately. And it's not a 1-2 or even 4-5 year process if we wanted to shift things back. Then there's the question of whether we would want to shift things back considering the environmental and quality of life impact of having factories in your backyard.
Say goodbye to China and go where? Mexico? USA? You think the MacBook Pro is expensive now? Try making this product in any other country amd see what kind of labour and supply chain issues you will have. Jumping out of the frying pan, into the fire will be the result. We are talking about the biggest and most successful company in the history of our planet, Apple knows exactly what they are doing, and why they are in China. Don't be so naive.It is time to say goodbye to China. When will these companies realize this? What’s it going to take?
When was the last time you were in China? It is no longer a "3rd world" country, don't be so niave.That gives us in the Western world a lot to think about.
Is our technology so important that we can just be OK with Third World countries dealing with all
The environmental toxins and child labor?
You don't need to present a hypothetical argument on behalf of someone else. If you want to argue this point, then own itI think his point is that there's a whole lot of variables beyond just labor costs that dictate why American companies continue to manufacture in China. I can tell you firsthand from relatives who are higher level executives at some of these companies, the average person on the street over here has no idea how good the whole supply chain is in China. Nothing we do here can compete at the same scale unfortunately. And it's not a 1-2 or even 4-5 year process if we wanted to shift things back. Then there's the question of whether we would want to shift things back considering the environmental and quality of life impact of having factories in your backyard.
It is time to say goodbye to China. When will these companies realize this? What’s it going to take?
'Only' and '200 tabs open' don't fit in the same sentence....only have 200 or so tabs open...
I'm going to try to break it to you gently, but you are not the average user.I am just saying that 16 GB is no longer a lot of ram for the average user.
Given web browsers also act as office suites, PDF readers, email clients, web apps (todo apps, calendars, etc.), audio players, video chat (Zoom, Teams, etc.), news, shopping centers, chat services (messenger, discord, etc.), storage (cloud, onedrive, etc.), social media (twitter, facebook, etc.), sports, research, and general inquiries - the average person likely starts their day with 50+ tabs.'Only' and '200 tabs open' don't fit in the same sentence.
I'm going to try to break it to you gently, but you are not the average user.