Macbook Santa Rosa

ArSoX

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Oct 26, 2006
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Hey ppl, this is my first post... and i have something to ask ur opinion

I'm thinking to buy this new macbook C2D, but the true is that i dont need the laptop for now, i can wait more months for that.

So i heard something about the next update (and i know that is early to talk about that because it sorfered a recently upgrade for C2D, but this is a forum for rumors, isn't it? ) that will take the Santa Rose processors.

What i want to know is wtf is Santa Rosa processors? It will be a huge upgrade? when do u think they will get this processors?

Thx in advance and sorry for my English!!
 

psychofreak

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Its Santa rosa BTW. And yes, it will be a nice, incremental upgrade, nothing mind-blowing, but nice none the less.
 
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Chundles

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Santa Rosa is the name of the chipset, not the processor.

The upgraded laptops when they come out next year will still use the "Merom" Core 2 Duo processors but the new chipset will allow for a faster (800MT/s) Frontside Bus, it will include Draft 2.0 of the still over a year away 802.11n wireless protocol and NAND flash "Robson" caching of the hard drive to allow a huge speed up in booting and application loading.
 
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Sun Baked

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Crestline would be a better description of what we get, since the CPU is the Merom -- the Crestline 965 chipset.

Don't know how much of the rest of the Santa Rosa (aka Centrino 4?) platform Apple will use, since the wireless may be a Broadcom chip, the I/O from others like now, etc.

Edit: Currently, the MacBooks are not capable of being called Centrino, and doubtful the next ones will either.
 
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Butthead

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Sun Baked said:
Crestline would be a better description of what we get, since the CPU is the Merom -- the Crestline 965 chipset.

Don't know how much of the rest of the Santa Rosa (aka Centrino 4?) platform Apple will use, since the wireless may be a Broadcom chip, the I/O from others like now, etc.

Edit: Currently, the MacBooks are not capable of being called Centrino, and doubtful the next ones will either.
Apple may adopt Robson hybrid NAND flash drive support when the Intel Santa Rosa platform is ready...sometime in Spring 2007, or at least in the 1st half of 2007. Or maybe they won't, no one knows at present (other than Apple), but it seems reasonable to assume they will support hybrid drives.

Read my post links here for more info on the many improvements possible with the Santa Rosa platform chipset of which Crestline is the 'North Bridge' chip---there are others, so read the links, it's a 'sticky' for those questions that are bound to come up over & over &over on MR:

https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/2943835/

But Santa Rosa, may not be the only improvements over the C2D Merom systems shipping now. We could see higher resolution screens, we could see a slot loading Blu-Ray optical drive, a higher performing GPU, etc. All of these things could make for a major upgrade, rather than modest that some think!
 
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WildCowboy

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Butthead said:
But Santa Rosa, may not be the only improvements over the C2D Merom systems shipping now. We could see higher resolution screens, we could see a slot loading Blu-Ray optical drive, a higher performing GPU, etc. All of these things could make for a major upgrade, rather than modest that some think!
True, but there's always something bigger, better, faster, smaller, newer right around the corner. At some point you have to take the plunge! :D
 
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ArSoX

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Butthead said:
Read my post links here for more info on the many improvements possible with the Santa Rosa platform chipset of which Crestline is the 'North Bridge' chip---there are others, so read the links, it's a 'sticky' for those questions that are bound to come up over & over &over on MR:

https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/2943835/
Nice one, thx for ur post
 
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wchong

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Sep 18, 2006
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Chundles said:
Santa Rosa is the name of the chipset, not the processor.

The upgraded laptops when they come out next year will still use the "Merom" Core 2 Duo processors but the new chipset will allow for a faster (800MT/s) Frontside Bus, it will include Draft 2.0 of the still over a year away 802.11n wireless protocol and NAND flash "Robson" caching of the hard drive to allow a huge speed up in booting and application loading.

do u still need a faster booting speed?

my 2' imac boots in less than 20 seconds. unless u want it to boot up as fast as u turn on the mac
 
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Eraserhead

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ArSoX said:
What i want to know is wtf is Santa Rosa processors? It will be a huge upgrade? when do u think they will get this processors?
as with all technology wait until you need to buy, you will always be waiting for the newer better thing, it is generally best to buy soon after an update too, though waiting a bit means you know whether the hardware's any good.

These threads get very, very, boring after a while and if you follow the above advise we don't really need them.
 
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Hls811

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wchong said:
do u still need a faster booting speed?

my 2' imac boots in less than 20 seconds. unless u want it to boot up as fast as u turn on the mac
Why can't it be faster? I dont even want to hit the button, it should sense I'm going to use it in a few seconds and should automatically power on - instantaneously. Its Almost 2007!! We have flying cars and robots all over the place - why can't this be done?

:)

Ahh.. a slow day at work.
 
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Sun Baked

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May 19, 2002
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>Butthead

You want to update the guide with the mobile 965 chipset info?

---

We should be near a Centrino laptop in a Mac case, with Broadcom/Atheros wireless, a FW800 PHY and all the current Apple I/O goodies.

As far as Robson, may depend on the state of that NAND flash memory -- since Apple is already sucking down a major portion of the world supply.

Likely Apple is quite capable of including 1GB of NAND in their machines sooner than others computer makers, due to their current supply contracts.

Edit: check the stock plays on NAND flash memory soon... might be interesting.
 
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mashinhead

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Oct 7, 2003
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i was under the impression the new one already has the 802.11n wireless capabilitiy

anyway that said i'm in the same boat, considering this current MBP, and i'm also interested in what to realistically expect when santa rosa comes out, not only in features but what those features mean, and how much of an increase will be seen. What speed chips/processor do you guys expect.
 
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Sun Baked

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mashinhead said:
i was under the impression the new one already has the 802.11n wireless capability
Needs the Broadcom Intensi-fi chip family.

Looks like the iMac is using it, the MacBook Pro might -- just wait to see if the BCM4321 shows up in pics. Or the Atheros chipset.

The one in the Mac Pro wasn't that card (has the older BCM4311 chip), and the Base Station and such need to be upgraded.

Edit: found pic...

Imac

 
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