Pure myth. My mbp gets the farthest reach out of all my laptops, not to mention when you open a computer on many models the built in wifi antenna has aluminum all around it.
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Pure myth. My mbp gets the farthest reach out of all my laptops, not to mention when you open a computer on many models the built in wifi antenna has aluminum all around it.
The only justification I had for getting the mac book pro was design, size, and gpu. With the new design in place, that just leaves size and gpu. I would love for apple to streamline their notebooks and just have the notebook difference be the screen sizes with the ability to customize and add a gpu. The thing, though, is that apple needs the ability to differentiate their notebook lines and I think the pro will be sticking around. Need a reason to have the premium around. =) I think all the items in apples lineup need a serious price discount. I am willing to pay for a premium but not being gouged on older inferior technology. Also I am a big believer in volume sales over mark-up. If apple makes their products within easier grasp of the market, think of all the additional sales they can add with accessories, software, etc. with their increased market share.
My only other wish is that they would do something with their desktops. The mac mini is a half assed attempt at a budget desktop while the apple tv is half assed as well. Why not combine the two together creating a media center type device microsoft has had in the PC market. I have a perfectly good monitor and want to update my apple desktop and so I do not need the Imac, the mini is half assed and seriously outdated, and the mac pro is way out of the range of what I need or am willing to pay.
My only other wish is that they would do something with their desktops. The mac mini is a half assed attempt at a budget desktop while the apple tv is half assed as well. Why not combine the two together creating a media center type device microsoft has had in the PC market. I have a perfectly good monitor and want to update my apple desktop and so I do not need the Imac, the mini is half assed and seriously outdated, and the mac pro is way out of the range of what I need or am willing to pay.
Sound better? Probably.
But the iPod is all about iTunes, the design of the device, and the operating system on the iPod. Nothing touches the refinement and ease of use of the iPod.
I have my doubts that it's a myth. I have quite a few professors that recently upgraded to MacBook Pros from PowerBook G4s. They're lucky to get reception in their corner offices now. They're using Ethernet now.
Updates not coming for at least a month.
Since when does Apple give their front page splash a week of being in the spotlight? It would make no sense for them to fold up their beautiful
iPod Touch and Nano banners to make room for new MacBook banners.
I say at least a month.
Since when does Apple give their front page splash a week of being in the spotlight? It would make no sense for them to fold up their beautiful
iPod Touch and Nano banners to make room for new MacBook banners.I say at least a month.
um, dont companies usually build up stock for a few weeks before a major release?
(rhetorical)
It is a fact. Personally I owned both and the Macbook is far better. Heck most people who own Pro's admit this. Well the honest ones.
I'm waiting for a mini or equivilent (dell studio hybrid) to come with the onboard GPU x4500 HD and a blu-ray option.
That will make the perfect Home Theater PC with Plex (XBMC) installed.
First one out the gate gets my money.
ps - please hurry, my children deserve to see "Nightmare Before Christmas" in 1080p ;-)
Or maybe you just aren't in the overwhelming majority of people... I mean, we're talking about the masses, not even the average MR member. So when you're sitting in a Starbucks trying to use WiFi an MBP doesn't get reception but a MB does? I've got an old 12" PB and haven't had any issues getting reception at any place that claims to have free wi-fi.
I'm seriously conidering getting one if the specs are good enough, been looking for any excuse.
Never know tomorrow could be the day!!!!
Never know tomorrow could be the day!!!!
Aren't PowerBooks metal as well? I mean, at least my PB is. You're right tho, it's not a myth, it's the single largest reason the iPhone is now plastic. That being said I still have never heard of someone sitting in a Starbucks with, for example, a MBP unable to get their Wi-Fi while a person with a MB gets it.
Most people buy laptops for their portability which means they take them away from their houses/apts. Pure common sense. Maybe you need some. I know a number of people at my University and work who have Pro's and have connection problems while I'm blazing away with no problems. This has been a common problem. Any search on any Mac site indicates that.
Better to Worse
iBook G4 > MacBook > PowerBook G4 > Macbook Pro
On the fringes you're not going to get a signal on Intel hardware. My Intel iMac was pathetic compared to my iMac G5.
The aggressive pricing really is a good thing.
Naturally the end of an Apple product cycle causes their product to become vastly expensive compared to the competition - in the UK you can get a laptop comparable to a Pro (minus OS X) for the same price as a blackbook.
Apple simply cannot afford to sell their laptops at that price point with the current specifications, and hopefully with the new ones either. With the advent of ultra portables, the laptop market has been surging towards the "sub £200/$500" laptop range as well as the £500/$1000. The average laptop now, has 2GB RAM (somewhat spurred on by Vista being demanding), a moderate C2D - Apple has always been good on this score - and generally decent, now often discrete graphics cards (the latter the Macbooks fail quite soundly on).
Some of the pricing will be alleviated if they adopt basic specifications in the macbooks, so 2GB RAM as standard (anything less at the moment would be criminal, even by Apple's standards - especially if they're still going to try and scam us out of £100 for a 2GB upgrade for "mac compatible" memory) for instance. Having such a high price means that in most cases, there is little to distinguish between the Pro and the Macbook, save the onboard graphics and screen real estate. It's also slightly criminal to be selling a 13.3" screen at such a high price, and hopefully Apple realise this.
Seriously, no amount of "it has OS X that makes it worth it" will change the fact that Apple are charging silly money for now outdated and outclassed technology. Whilst the "fixed" (har har) prices of Apple products is good in many ways (like we don't have to pay more for updates, and with inflation it sort of means they're getting cheaper anyway) a price cut is more than welcome in the Macbook family.
It's interesting really. For my 18th, i asked for a Macbook Pro - sure as hell is more useful than a car - for university (this was a combined present, my family isn't loaded). This was duly agreed, and i asked to wait until the new updates since i'd feel pretty stupid buying just before a revamp. Now, i'm going to get a Macbook. Why? Well, i realised that the extra real estate for the screen and the extra GPU ooomph just wasn't worth 500 of my money. Instead, i've asked (and currently have) for a desktop upgrade to take to Uni (bigger monitor and my rig is now virtually silent) and a macbook. The macbook processor is pretty much the same as the Pro - and there's no way 0.1Ghz is worth the amount they want. It's also a lot more portable! But i digress - my point is that the current pricing means that a macbook is much better value for money, offering similar specs for most things - portable gaming has lost interest for me and i don't do enough graphics work to make the GPU worthwhile on the go (i'll stick with my 8800GT in my desk). A price cut would help markedly.
The rest of the information is somewhat expected though, LED screens are very likely, the new look to go with the iMac and the Air, etc.
Naturally the end of an Apple product cycle causes their product to become vastly expensive compared to the competition - in the UK you can get a laptop comparable to a Pro (minus OS X) for the same price as a blackbook.
Apple simply cannot afford to sell their laptops at that price point with the current specifications, and hopefully with the new ones either. With the advent of ultra portables, the laptop market has been surging towards the "sub £200/$500" laptop range as well as the £500/$1000. The average laptop now, has 2GB RAM (somewhat spurred on by Vista being demanding), a moderate C2D - Apple has always been good on this score - and generally decent, now often discrete graphics cards (the latter the Macbooks fail quite soundly on).
Some of the pricing will be alleviated if they adopt basic specifications in the macbooks, so 2GB RAM as standard (anything less at the moment would be criminal, even by Apple's standards - especially if they're still going to try and scam us out of £100 for a 2GB upgrade for "mac compatible" memory) for instance. Having such a high price means that in most cases, there is little to distinguish between the Pro and the Macbook, save the onboard graphics and screen real estate. It's also slightly criminal to be selling a 13.3" screen at such a high price, and hopefully Apple realise this.
Seriously, no amount of "it has OS X that makes it worth it" will change the fact that Apple are charging silly money for now outdated and outclassed technology. Whilst the "fixed" (har har) prices of Apple products is good in many ways (like we don't have to pay more for updates, and with inflation it sort of means they're getting cheaper anyway) a price cut is more than welcome in the Macbook family.
It's interesting really. For my 18th, i asked for a Macbook Pro - sure as hell is more useful than a car - for university (this was a combined present, my family isn't loaded). This was duly agreed, and i asked to wait until the new updates since i'd feel pretty stupid buying just before a revamp. Now, i'm going to get a Macbook. Why? Well, i realised that the extra real estate for the screen and the extra GPU ooomph just wasn't worth 500 of my money. Instead, i've asked (and currently have) for a desktop upgrade to take to Uni (bigger monitor and my rig is now virtually silent) and a macbook. The macbook processor is pretty much the same as the Pro - and there's no way 0.1Ghz is worth the amount they want. It's also a lot more portable! But i digress - my point is that the current pricing means that a macbook is much better value for money, offering similar specs for most things - portable gaming has lost interest for me and i don't do enough graphics work to make the GPU worthwhile on the go (i'll stick with my 8800GT in my desk). A price cut would help markedly.
The rest of the information is somewhat expected though, LED screens are very likely, the new look to go with the iMac and the Air, etc.
Since when does Apple give their front page splash a week of being in the spotlight? It would make no sense for them to fold up their beautiful
I say at least a month.
no , you see ...the toys get folk interested and looking in Apple's direction then they hit us all with the new machines ...right at the time everyone is looking at the iPods/phone.....although , bet there are some pssdoff media types after the "lets rock" supposed ' big thing ' !.
Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the PowerBook's were Titanium, and then they switched to an Aluminium alloy with the MacBook Pro's?
By your logic there would be no reason for a person to use a laptop on a plane since they aren't using Wi-Fi. There's way more reasons than just being able to surf the web at the library to buy a laptop. So it's your anecdotal evidence vs my anecdotal evidence - where does that leave us?
Perhaps your university needs to give their Wi-Fi a little more juice, when I was at MY University I never had any problems.
I love my iMac and if I bought a laptop I would only buy from the MacBook family. But I have to say, you can get a damn fine laptop these days for under $700 -- granted it'll be a Vista machine (blech) but HP and Sony are making some nice machines.
Great to hear Apple is getting aggressive on price. Every student wants a MacBook, but when you get to the box store and dad has decide between $800 for a decent Vista laptop and $1200+ for the entry level MacBook (with less hard drive, less memory, and no DVD burner) -- it's pretty hard to convince dad it's worth it (even though all of us here know it is).
Great to hear Apple is getting aggressive on price. Every student wants a MacBook, but when you get to the box store and dad has decide between $800 for a decent Vista laptop and $1200+ for the entry level MacBook (with less hard drive, less memory, and no DVD burner) -- it's pretty hard to convince dad it's worth it (even though all of us here know it is).
There was a single iteration of TiBooks but they moved to Aluminum shortly after.
i can confirm this as well
stay tuned...
oh , ok ...must be true then
pics or your having a laugh .
