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hajime

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Because of the T2 chip, am I correct that it will be very difficult or impossible to install linux natively? Is Windows support will be the same as that of pre-butterfly generations?
 
Thanks. Have anybody in this forum tried with success? How about triple boots?
 
Windows via Bootcamp does not work at the moment. It says there is no support software available on the server so the install fails. I assume there are no drivers yet. Hopefully it'll be fixed soon.
 
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Windows via Bootcamp does not work at the moment. It says there is no support software available on the server so the install fails. I assume there are no drivers yet. Hopefully it'll be fixed soon.

Thanks for the info. This is worrying as all MBP are supposed to support Windows natively via Bootcamp. If I recall correct, all previous MBP could run Windows under Bootcamp from Day 1 of release.
 
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you're not correct. at the moment you can boot linux and install it on an external disk but not natively on the internal ssd and that was the question about.

Thanks. This is what I asked. I want to know if the new MBP 16" can run Windows and Linux natively like those MBP made before 2015.
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I am not going to buy it if it cannot even run Windows natively. Being able to run Linux natively is another requirement.
 
Boot camp feels like abandonware at this point. All sorts of pitfalls trying to get it installed and working properly. Parallels is quite good, and probably the best option for most use cases.
 
Boot camp feels like abandonware at this point. All sorts of pitfalls trying to get it installed and working properly. Parallels is quite good, and probably the best option for most use cases.

Thanks. I do 3D CAD under Windows. I have tried Linux and Windows under Parallels. Too slow for me.
 
It was the same thing in 2018. The drivers came out like 2 days after the MBPs started shipping.

Thanks. I just bought a MBP 16" and updated the system software. I found bootcamp in Launchpad. So just use it to partition the internal SSD and then install Windows? Haven't used Mac made in 2016-2019. Do I get the Windows driver during the partition stage? I forgot to buy a usb-c to usb dongle so I cannot try to install Windows now.
 
You won’t be able to. The Bootcamp assistant will tell you it can’t find the drivers and will stop right there. No partitioning, no change in the windows unattended installation file, and to UEFI drivers.
The only way to do it now without Bootcamp’s help (I did it when I wanted to install Windows Server in Bootcamp) is to manually create the windows partition in disk utility, get the UEFI drivers, edit the WinPE drivers that are loaded and with a bit of luck you’ll get there. The most important one is the SSD driver.
Easier temporary way is to install Windows on an external drive, that should work without Bootcamp.
 
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You won’t be able to. The Bootcamp assistant will tell you it can’t find the drivers and will stop right there. No partitioning, no change in the windows unattended installation file, and to UEFI drivers.
The only way to do it now without Bootcamp’s help (I did it when I wanted to install Windows Server in Bootcamp) is to manually create the windows partition in disk utility, get the UEFI drivers, edit the WinPE drivers that are loaded and with a bit of luck you’ll get there. The most important one is the SSD driver.
Easier temporary way is to install Windows on an external drive, that should work without Bootcamp.

Thanks. When do you expect those drivers be available? Which kind of external drive is as fast as the internal one>
 
The drivers should be available next week or the week after at max.
You probably don't need a drive as fast as the internal one, I use the Sandisk Extreme Portable which gives me ~500 MB/s r/w. If you really need a fast drive, OWC has drives that can reach 2.5 GB/s in TB3.
 
Boot camp feels like abandonware at this point. All sorts of pitfalls trying to get it installed and working properly. Parallels is quite good, and probably the best option for most use cases.
Apple doesn’t really need it anymore. Back when it was introduced, the Mac was still the company’s primary source of revenue.
 
Hold up here. Since 2018 MBP's won't run Windows natively ??? 😨 Was not aware of this. This requires some thought and analysis before any upcoming purchase.
 
Hold up here. Since 2018 MBP's won't run Windows natively ??? 😨 Was not aware of this. This requires some thought and analysis before any upcoming purchase.
What do you mean ? Of course they run Windows natively. They’ve always have since the first MBP with an Intel chip back in 2006. They just need drivers like every other laptop in the world.
 
What do you mean ? Of course they run Windows natively. They’ve always have since the first MBP with an Intel chip back in 2006. They just need drivers like every other laptop in the world.

Sorry. Poor choice of words. By natively I meant they won't run it from the built in drive? You need to use an external drive?
 
Sorry. Poor choice of words. By natively I meant they won't run it from the built in drive? You need to use an external drive?
They will. They just don’t at the moment because the drivers aren’t available yet, but by end of next week this won’t be an issue at all. You’ll be able to run both from the internal or an external drive (provided you allow external boot from the System utility).
 
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They will. They just don’t at the moment because the drivers aren’t available yet, but by end of next week this won’t be an issue at all. You’ll be able to run both from the internal or an external drive (provided you allow external boot from the System utility).
Thanks. Crisis averted 😅
 
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Has anyone gotten a live iso of Ubuntu to boot on a macbookpro16,1 model? I’ve tried 19.10 and a 18.04 (external thunderbolt 3 NVMe drive) that works fully on my old 2016 MacBook Pro with all the drivers and newer Kernel 5. After grub I just get a black screen. No console output of any kind. I’ve tried adding noapic and nomodeset and removed the splash and quiet options but still no luck. I know I can’t install to the internal drive but the external is plenty fast and I’d like to have a native Linux like on my older 2016 model for things that just don’t run as well under Fusion.
 
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