Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.

MrCheeto

Suspended
Original poster
Nov 2, 2008
3,531
353
I have a client that will need to run old Motorola 68030 System 7 software on a B&W PowerMac G3 with OS 9.

Any straight-forward solutions?
 
Last edited by a moderator:
I have a client that will need to run old Motorola 68030 System 7 software on a B&W PowerMac G3 with OS 9.

Any straight-forward solutions?

Double-click the app?

Unless it is a *VERY* strange piece of software, it should run just fine. Pre-System-7 apps are more likely to have quirks that make them not run on later OSes, but anything System 7 or later should be fine.

I have successfully run MacWrite 1.0 (an original 1984 launch app) on a G5 running Mac OS X 10.4, via the Classic environment's Mac OS 9.2.2 install. No tweaking needed.
 
I know there are some issues running Early versions of ClarisWorks with OS 9.2, etc. A Blue and White G3 can run 8.5.1 and 8.6, He/she can resort to this version of Mac OS if they encounter problems running anything under OS 9.
 
Apparently, the Macintosh Classic II's are used to run CNC machines. If it ain't broke, don't fix it, right?

Well, now we need to run that software on a G3. I'll assume, then, that my original presumption was correct.

Thanks.
 
OK, so now I have a different issue.

I've pulled the internal drives out of an SE/30 and the Classic II. I plugged them directly into the power in the PowerMac G3 B&W, and the internal SCSI cable into the SCSI Controller PCI card.

When I open Drive Setup in OS 9.2, it simply says "ID 1 Drive not supported"

So it's seeing the drive but...what now? All I want to do is move two files off of the old drive =\
 
...When I open Drive Setup in OS 9.2, it simply says "ID 1 Drive not supported"...

That only means that the drive doesn't have Apple firmware.

Drive Setup from OS 9 and earlier (including the VERY old HDSC Setup) will only allow formatting of a hard drive with Apple's firmware. Those drives will have either a black Apple logo on the manufacturer's label or a round sticker with a red Apple logo on older drives.

What you may want to try now is SCSIProbe v4.3.

You can get it here:

ftp://ftp.lf.net/pub/mac/disk/SCSIProbe 4.3 folder.sit.hqx

Select the drive in the control panel and click the "Mount" button.
 
Wait...what?

The Macintosh had System 7 and I'm trying to mount it inside of a PowerMac that's running OS 9...:confused:
 
Wait...what?

The Macintosh had System 7 and I'm trying to mount it inside of a PowerMac that's running OS 9...:confused:

I think I'm confused by your reply.

By "mount" I mean to mount the volume that is on the drive on the OS 9 desktop so that you can retrieve the files you need.

MacOS 9 shouldn't have any issues doing this.

I'm still confused as to why YOU are confused.
 
That only means that the drive doesn't have Apple firmware.

What I'm confused by is that basically you are stating that the hard drive that came out of my Macintosh doesn't have Apple Firmware....
 
What I'm confused by is that basically you are stating that the hard drive that came out of my Macintosh doesn't have Apple Firmware....

That's usually what causes Drive Setup to say "Unsupported", yes.

If it DOES have a black Apple logo, then the SCSI bus may be getting corrupted, and the model & firmware numbers are becoming garbled. Check with SCSIProbe to see if the model is reporting correctly.

Example;

Apple badged Quantum ProDrive LPS:
http://www.biocomp.net/o82842.htm

Non-Apple badged Quantum ProDrive LPS:
http://www.a1usedcomputers.com.au/shop/prodView.asp?idproduct=627

I don't recall Apple dropping older drives from Drive Setup's supported drives.

I've installed non-Apple drives in plenty of older Macs, and you either needed a patched/hacked version of HDSC Setup or Drive Setup to be able to format or initialize them, or use FWB's "Hard Disk Toolkit" or Lacie's SilverLining to format them.

In any case, that doesn't matter since Drive Setup only allows formatting (and limited read write tests) and that's NOT what you need.

The reason the drive won't mount is probably because the drives have a driver on them that isn't SCSI Manager 4.3 compliant. SCSIProbe should be able to get around this and just mount the AppleVolume partition which contains the data you need.
 
Didn't the last SCSI drive on chain need to have a terminator? Is the drive terminated? Or was that just for externals?
 
Yes, it's mounted with a single-drive cable onto a PCI SCSI controller, internally.
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.