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MacMini USB Port Question

pandeas

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Hi, I have a Late 2012 MacMini 2.6GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7. The spec sheets say that it has USB 3.0 ports, but when I check the system report, it says USB 2.0. Would anyone know which is correct? It just that I want to connect a fast external hard drive and want to know whether to go with USB 3 or Thunderbolt (I expect that this will be TB1).

Cheers.
 

chabig

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You have USB 3 ports that support speed up to 5Gbps. I suspect you're misreading the System Report. You should be fine connecting an external drive to the USB port. While faster, a Thunderbolt device won't be worth the extra cost, because the data transfer rate will be limited to what the external drive can achieve.
 
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Boyd01

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I have the same Mini, and they are definitely USB 3.0. This is what I get with a 1TB Samsung T3 USB SSD, with a USB 2.0 port it would only be about 35 MB/sec. ;)

 
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pandeas

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Thanks for the feedback. So, I have downloaded BlackMagic Disk Speed Test and plugged in a USB 3.0 WD My Passport Ultra. I am not getting anything like a USB 3.0 speed:

Speed Test USB 3 external.jpeg


Here is my system:

System 1.jpeg


USB details from the system profiler:

System Profile 1.jpeg


So I am not sure what is going on as the specs say USB 3.0, but mine seems to be USB 2.0.
 
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chabig

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Let's rule out the freak possibility that the manufacturer accidentally put USB2 hardware onto your motherboard in place of USB3 hardware. That leaves just a few possibilities:

1. You bought this Mini from someone who lied about its configuration and sold you a 2011 Mini disguised as a 2012.
2. You are teasing us.
3. System software can't correctly identify your hardware.

Let's assume it's a software problem. The machine is seven years old.

- Have you applied all firmware updates?
- Try resetting the System Management Controller:

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201295

- Try downloading and running the latest High Sierra combo updater. This will ensure you have the latest drivers:

https://support.apple.com/kb/DL1970

If the combo updater doesn't work, I would suggest a clean install.
 
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xbpr

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Thanks for the feedback. So, I have downloaded BlackMagic Disk Speed Test and plugged in a USB 3.0 WD My Passport Ultra. I am not getting anything like a USB 3.0 speed:

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Here is my system:

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USB details from the system profiler:

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So I am not sure what is going on as the specs say USB 3.0, but mine seems to be USB 2.0.

I’ve got a 2012 Server and System Information shows the same 2 USB 2.0 entries as yours, but I scrolled further down and there is a USB 3.0 entry as well.
 
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jackerin

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Devices on USB 2.0 speed will show up under a 2.0 device tree in the system profiler, at least it does for me, while 3.0 devices show up under a separate 3.0 device tree. Do you have anything more showing?
 
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FreakinEurekan

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Thanks for the feedback. So, I have downloaded BlackMagic Disk Speed Test and plugged in a USB 3.0 WD My Passport Ultra. I am not getting anything like a USB 3.0 speed:
For an external hard disk, those speeds look about normal. The speeds @Boyd01 was showing were from an SSD. Here's what I see on a 2012 Mini from my Time Machine backup disk.

If you had USB 2.0, you'd be getting tops around 35Mb/s
 

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pandeas

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Okay,

Thanks for this. I will check when I get home tonight if there is a 3.0 tree and also see if I’ve got a SSD external drive that I can attach.

I did check the serial number on the computer case and it matches the serial number on the system.

It still seems a bit strange that I couldn’t easily see a USB 3.0 tree. For any of you that have this as a separate tree, can you look at the image from system profiler that I have put above and compare it to yours? In case it should be in the same place.

Thanks again, this thread has been really helpful
 
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Boyd01

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Thanks for the feedback. So, I have downloaded BlackMagic Disk Speed Test and plugged in a USB 3.0 WD My Passport Ultra. I am not getting anything like a USB 3.0 speed

Sure you are. I also have a couple Passport Ultra's, and they're slow bus-powered hard drives. On USB 2.0, you would only be getting around 30-35 MB/sec. On a full sized USB 3.0 3tb hard drive with its own power brick, I get around 150 to 170MB/sec. You will need an external SSD to take full advantage of the USB port speed.
 
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Scoot65

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I've just checked the system profile on my machine. If you click and hold / drag down on the little dot below the 'bluetooth USB host controller' it will show 'USB 3 bus'. Have you tried this?
 
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FreakinEurekan

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It still seems a bit strange that I couldn’t easily see a USB 3.0 tree. For any of you that have this as a separate tree, can you look at the image from system profiler that I have put above and compare it to yours? In case it should be in the same place.
I think you just need to scroll down :)

There are two USB 2.0 busses on the USB Device Tree, then the USB 3.0 bus is below those. At least one of the 2.0 busses is internal; it has the IR receiver and Bluetooth controller on it.
 

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