macOS 10.13 Wishlist

Discussion in 'macOS High Sierra (10.13)' started by jdasikainen, Sep 24, 2016.

  1. jdasikainen macrumors 6502


    Mar 4, 2016
    Bald Knob Arkansas
    i know sierra just came out 3 days ago but i was thinking with such a minor update what do you all hope to see in the next version. personally i have a few ideas that i would love to see

    • system wide dark mode - not the dark mode we have now have it actually effect finder and all application interfaces .
    • multiple docks for multiple displays - i think it would be neat if ur running a dual or more display setup to have separate docks on separate screens. that way you could have apps organized by witch screen u use them on. For example id have mail and twitter pinned to the left display dock, safari, chrome, and other main apps on man dock, and then iTunes, spotify, steam, and a few other things on the right dock
    • better 5.1 support - when i hook in a 5.1 sound system there is no way to test if they are plugged into the right channels like in windows
    • allow menu bar utilities in the mac app store - if they are going to keep making gate keeper stricter witch is easy to fix btw then they need to allow menu bar utilities in the mac app store
    these are some of my ideas. i know this is a bit early but still what do you all hope for. i jus feel sierra is a great os but not enough new features to justify the upgrade especially if your mac can't run it natively. iv installed it on a backup mac but there isn't much a reason to miss it on my 1,1 pro or my 09 13 inch mbp.
  2. mark-vdw macrumors regular

    Jan 20, 2013
    • Split the bloated iTunes app. Give me a real Music app, seperate from a Movies app. Put all the "device management" stuff into a seperate app or into a control panel under "System Preferences".
    • Merge Spotlight and Siri. Right now I find it confusing that both do similar things but just slightly differently. Whether my input is spoken or typed should not in any way influence the results.
    • Allow Messages apps from iOS to run natively in macOS Messages.
    • Allow 3rd party developers to create Filters that can be used within Photos both on iOS and macOS
    • An Apple Health app on Mac that takes the data from my iPhone, either through encrypted iCloud sync or via local wifi / bluetooth sync
    • Improve Notes even further to the point where it can compete with Evernote (now that those guys put all the interesting features into Premium...). Mainly this means having Notebooks.
    • Easily allow me to use my iPad or AppleTV as a 2nd screen in an easier way than what is possible today
  3. Ebenezum macrumors 6502a

    Mar 31, 2015
    • APFS done properly, including file checksum. If necessary postpone it for a few years. I fear Apple will release it too early given its complexity. :(
    • Priority on fixing bugs and making OS faster. El Capitan was supposed to be such release but it let a lot to be desired.
    • If Apple insist on adding more features at the very least provide ability to choose what installed or alternatively easy way to remove features user doesn't need. Photos, iCloud running pointlessly in the background just to name a few examples.
    • Fix Spotlight, it has been buggy since Yosemite and I'm not convinced expanding its focus to internet search was a smart idea. It is trying to do too many things at the same time and its way too limited as a result. Sherlock 2 might be a better option in addition to Spotlight.
    • Adding features from iOS is taking OS to wrong direction in my opinion, what works in phone doesn't work in desktop. (Siri is even more useless than I expected).
  4. APlotdevice, Oct 21, 2016
    Last edited: Oct 21, 2016

    APlotdevice macrumors 68040


    Sep 3, 2011
    An "eject external drive(s)" option in the Apple menu - It's annoying that I always have to switch to the finder to eject my thumb drive.

    (I know there is a secret "eject menu", but sadly it only works for optical drives)
  5. dogslobber macrumors 68030


    Oct 19, 2014
    Apple Campus, Cupertino CA
    A PowerPC build. Those PowerPC owners deserve to have Siri.
  6. Otaviano macrumors 6502a


    Nov 22, 2007
    - Merge Siri & Spotlight
    - System wide dark mode
    - Split iTunes into multiple apps: Music, Films & TV, Podcasts, iSync,

    With the new file system you might not need to eject drives any longer.
  7. APlotdevice macrumors 68040


    Sep 3, 2011
    Proprietary apple file systems are no good for flash drives. It needs to be able to work with any operating system I plug it into.
  8. jdasikainen thread starter macrumors 6502


    Mar 4, 2016
    Bald Knob Arkansas
    i like what you all are all thinking. id also like since posting the original post to have mltiple docks for mutliple screens i dont want my main dock to switch screens id like to pin items to a dock on what ever screen i use it on to keep the docks cleaner for example on my dual screens on my 1,1 mac pro running el cap id pin mail, twitter, skype , discord, and itunes to the second screen while safari, chrome, app store, steam, minecraft and so on to the main screen that way i would not acidently open a program on the wrong screen. just an idea. and this would only be benificial for multi screen setups.
  9. potatis macrumors 6502a


    Dec 9, 2006
    Preference to disable the green traffic light button completely, at least through entry in a textfile somewhere.
    For those who have to administer elderly people using the mac.

    Preference to have a master volume set to for example max 50%, but 50% shows as 100% in the menu bar.
    For those who have to administer younger people using the mac.

    ... fill in.
  10. T909, Mar 15, 2017
    Last edited: Mar 17, 2017

    T909 Suspended

    Aug 16, 2008
    Current models supported


    You can handwrite and draw and hide tabs
    Support for 360 videos

    Siri and Spotlight merged into one app
    Dashboard removed
    Battery shows time again on the menubar
    iWeb back
  11. C.clavin macrumors member

    Apr 23, 2012
    This. Also, when I plug my 15" MBP into my 27" LG 5K monitor, adjust the size of the dock and windows appropriately. When I go back to my laptop screen size, all of my windows are near-full size and its annoying to switch everything over. Also, make Siri more powerful and be able to answer all system-related questions.
  12. T909 Suspended

    Aug 16, 2008
    Do you think Apple will drop some Macs as iPhone 5 will be unsupported?
  13. bmac89, Apr 20, 2017
    Last edited: Apr 20, 2017

    bmac89 macrumors 65816


    Aug 3, 2014
    Open new window in split view from the dock contextual menu:

    When in a full screen app it would be nice to open a new app or new window directly into split view. For example right click on dock icon and option click open to open second app or window in split view.

    Drag split screen window to edge of screen to discard - Similar to ipad split screen.

    For example I have Safari and Mail in split screen and I no longer want the Mail window so I just drag (resize) it to the edge of the screen and the window moves to the desktop space (or its own space).... and I continue viewing Safari uninterrupted.

    Allow access to the dock when activating split view with green button:

    Allow access to the dock (auto hidden as usual in fullscreen) to open a second app/window. This is particularly helpful when you activate split view but there are no available windows for the second view. Alternatively show the launchpad (or similar app picker) in the second split view.

    Drag and drop windows in mission control to replace a split view window:

    I love that you can drag a window to the top of the screen (activate mission control), and drop the window onto another fullscreen space to create split screen. However I think it would be even better if you could drag and drop a window onto a space which already has split view to replace one of the windows. The displaced window would automatically be moved to another fullscreen space.

    For example I have a space with Safari & Mail split screen. I then open a calendar app from the desktop and drag and drop it onto the right side of split view (mail) replacing the mail app so I have a Safari & calendar split screen instead. To achieve this currently would involve leaving split view and re-initiating it.
  14. Zarniwoop macrumors 6502a

    Aug 12, 2009
    West coast, Finland
    I wish that Metal would be finally ready and Apple could introduce their roadmap for GPGPU. Is it openCL, Metal or what?

    I have a feeling that openCL is about to die along with openGL. For the sake of future programmers, it would be nice to know where to focus and what's going to be obsolete...
  15. Zarniwoop macrumors 6502a

    Aug 12, 2009
    West coast, Finland
    Support for AMD's True Audio Next. Would be nice addition to speed up Logic Pro and other multimedia apps.
  16. xxray macrumors 6502a

    Jul 27, 2013
    Lots of under-the-cover improvements to make it faster, more lightweight, and efficient.
  17. nutmac, May 2, 2017
    Last edited: May 3, 2017

    nutmac macrumors 68040

    Mar 30, 2004
    1. Window management: Some of the most popular paid apps on Mac App Store are window manager. Like Night Shift and Windows 10, I think window management should be baked into OS itself.
    2. Improved security: It has become all too easy to damage macOS with malware. There are many shady apps (e.g., MacKeeper) with proper Developer ID, thus getting around GateKeeper. System Integrity Protection also does not go far enough. macOS should be rock solid and it should be easier to get rid of apps that installs code outside its sandbox.
    3. Mac App Store: I applaud all the security features of apps featured on the Mac App Store, but Apple needs to attract more developers. Offer upgrade pricing, trial mode, and special privileges (especially getting around sandboxing) for well known/proven developers.
    4. Siri: Siri on macOS Sierra is embarrassingly limited. Offer greater feature parity against iOS (e.g., HomeKit, SiriKit) and text input for those working in a collaborative environment.
    5. Messages: iOS feature parity with support for iMessages stickers.
    6. Dark Mode: "Use dark menu bar and Dock" should expand to other parts of the OS and it should become an API for 3rd party apps.
    7. iTunes redux: It's time kill iTunes. I would prefer iOS-style treatment by breaking iTunes into 2 apps: Music and TV, each with integrated iTunes Store, and optional iTunes U and Podcasts apps. As for syncing, iOS devices should provide syncing UI, with System Preferences serving syncing permission options.
    8. Photos: I want more Aperture features added to Photos app, particularly being able to leverage more meta data attributes to sort, filter, or create Smart Album.
    9. Flexible iCloud Pricing: I shouldn't have to choose a pricing tier. I should be able to pay as much as I am using, such as 200MB increment at $1.99/month.
    10. iCloud Drive: Add more fine grain control over "Desktop & Documents Folders", where I can selectively pick folders, as well as keeping some locally.
    11. iCloud Backup: Just like iOS.
    12. iCloud Photo Library: Family Sharing.
    13. APFS: Full support for APFS as well as defaulting to APFS for new Macs. A bonus point for enhancing APFS, such as data integrity and always ejectable volume.
    14. Safari: Safari 9 from macOS 10.11 brought audio muting control. I would like to see this feature go further and see audio and video blocked by default (at least as option in Preferences). Also, offer more power to Content Blockers.
    15. Touch Bar: Since Touch Bar offers visual cues already, it should suppress on-screen feedback when doing things like changing volume and brightness. Also, an option to place Escape key on the left corner permanently.
    16. Shorter Animation: Like iOS 10.3, macOS needs shorter animation. Full screen animation is particularly way too long and it makes me avoid using the feature entirely. A quarter second or less for all animations, please.
    17. Calendar: Calendar menu bar (like Fantastical).
    18. New Mouse Cursor: macOS 10.11's Shake to Find was nice, but the mouse cursor is still hard to find, especially over multiple monitors. I would like to see it redesigned.
  18. xflashx macrumors regular

    Aug 12, 2016
    • Improved disk utility
    • More (!) settings for the OS itself
    • Volume Control for Displays connected via HDMI/DP (every other OS can do this!)
  19. vista980622, May 7, 2017
    Last edited: May 8, 2017

    vista980622 macrumors 6502

    Aug 2, 2012
    I wish Apple would introduce features that push the Mac platform forward in addition to porting iOS features to the Mac. (Cross posted to Medium, Reddit and Zhihu Column)

    • Media and Playback controls. As /u/PrsnSingh and /u/FoferJ mentioned, a less distracting volume/brightness control HUD such as cleanHUD.

    • Window Management. Split Screen from El Capitan is not good enough. Windows 10-style window snapping can be very helpful. (Some of the best selling apps from the Mac App Store does exactly this!)

    • Pro theme. Provide a more comprehensive pro theme than Graphite or Dark Menu Bar + Dock. Provide a more muted color scheme across the system that is not as in-your-face as "Increase Contrast". Should apply to Aqua widgets for views and for windows, title bars, glyph icons and app icons.
    • Make UXKit public. While macOS has great support for pro apps and content creation apps, important native mainstream consumer apps (such as Messenger, Reddit, Medium, Instagram, etc.) will never arrive without an easy way to port an iOS counterpart to macOS. I don't mean the current patchwork UXKit for Photos or Pricing, but the ability (including tooling in Xcode) to easily port iOS apps to the Mac without significant engineering effort. Most companies don't have the budget/team for creating desktop apps. If their mobile effort happens to translate to a native desktop app by ticking a checkbox and making some minor UI adjustment, a lot of nice things can happen. The UX would actually be quite good if Apple makes it easy to map TabBar as segmented controls in the title bar (the back button is fine on top-left corner), and performs some magic on mapping UIGestureRecongnizers to NSGestureRecognizer even if those two internally work wildly apart.

    • Allow emulating iOS apps on the App Store with no recompilation or resubmissions required (Unlikely). The ability to emulate iOS apps on the Mac with a dynamic binary translator similar to Rosetta. Again, scrolling and zooming gestures are mapped to Trackpad gestures. Tab bar is mapped to the unified title bar.

    • Update GPU acceleration frameworks (Extremely Unlikely). Update OpenGL to 4.5. Add support for Vulkan. Keep improving Metal.

    • Update outdated UNIX tools (Extremely Unlikely). Update bash, git and other GPL-licenced UNIX command line tools to the latest version. Sort out legal issues with the GPL3 license.

    • Improve thermal management. Some poor balance is made between fan speed and device thermal, especially for MacBook Pro 2016 devices. If necessary, be more aggressive about when the fan kicks in. As /u/Sixty4Slices mentioned, this may come in an SMC update rather than a full OS update.

    • WebKit. Fix performance issues of rendering and scrolling for WKWebKit instances so that scrolling and page loading in embedded WKWebView is as smooth as it is in Safari.
    Existing Apps
    • Siri. Allow third party developers to support Siri with SiriKit and IntentKit. Add support for HomeKit devices. Add support for actual timers, not reminders. No, "I don't want to set a reminder instead". If that means porting the Clock app to macOS (I bet it will look beautiful full screen in the World Clock view), I'm all in for it.

    • Notification Center. Redesigned Notification Center (or just bring the one from El Capitan back). Allow apps and websites to receive push notifications and display them in Notification Center even when the app is not currently open using APNs.

    • Spotlight. Improved Spotlight responsiveness and a more streamlined interface. The one from Mavericks can be used as an inspiration. It is way faster at searching local files and shows a lot more results at once without scrolling. Also, lazily load results from the internet, such as weather, stocks or sport scores and never let the loading of thee contents impact the performance of local searches.

    • Mac App Store (Extremely Unlikely). Drop unrealistic sandboxing restrictions, especially ones related to networking permissions or granting file system access. Reduce the 30% cut to <10%, so the big players such as Adobe Creative Cloud and Microsoft Office can join the Mac App Store, finally marking the death of crappy counterfeits or "Guides". Seriously, even if they don't improve their sandboxing policy, crappy counterfeits with copyright-infringing icons or names should still be purged from the store. They are very confusing to many, many less savvy customers.

    • Safari. The ability to add Safari web apps to Launchpad, then run them as if they are actual apps. Each app has its own icon on the Dock and in the app switcher. Drop/loosen the window size limit for PIP videos. Drop the requirement of $99 Developer Membership to publish Safari Extensions. Improve the Content Blocker API to be more flexible.

    • Finder. Improved scrolling responsiveness (Scrolling in Finder has always been a hit-and-miss, where it is buttery smooth in 10.6, 10.9 and 10.11, but regressed severely in 10.7 and 10.10. Whatever the cause is, please locate it and fix it). Improved performance when accessing SMB and network storage. Improved file management and handling, perhaps by redesigning the sidebar on the left to include additional disclosure triangles for Devices and Favorites, so that moving files to another favourited subfolder becomes easier.

    • iCloud Drive. A more sensible amount of free storage, with iWork documents being excluded from storage size calculations unless the user is embedding large media files (similar to Google Drive) and photos being backed up for free in reduced quality (similar to Google Photos).

    • Photos. Fix hogging issues associated with the photoanalysisd daemon. When one device has analyzed a photo, sync the analyzation results to other devices via iCloud instead of having each device perform its own analysis. Also sync facial clustering information while you're at it. If necessary, offload the task of analyzing photos to remote iCloud servers instead of handling them locally. Additionally, improve the facial clustering algorithm.

    • Preview. While powerful and handling both PDFs, images and other file formats, Preview can benefit from a facelift. Perhaps even add support for opening and editing .SVG files and "Back/Forward for files in the same folder" This already exists through File -> Open and picking a folder in the file picker. Thanks, /u/nupogodi.

    • QuickTime and AVFoundation. Add support for HEVC / H.265 as well as the .mkv media container.

    • Xcode. Improve Swift tooling. Compile time is way too slow for larger projects and auto complete sometimes silently fails. Add refactoring for Swift.

    • iOS Simulator. Fix UI performance issues. UIKit in iOS Simulator has became ridiculous choppy after 2013 even on top end hardware.
    New Apps:
    • Apple News. This one should be a straightforward port from iOS if we get UXKit.

    • iTunes. Break it apart into separate apps. The branding is confusing, the features is convoluted and the global search bar is often buggy, automatically jumping from searching in one store such as iTunes U to another such as Podcasts.

    • Podcasts. This one should be a straightforward port from iOS if we get UXKit. Would be nice if we get features similar to Overcast’s Smart Speed and Voice Boost.

    • Voice Memos. This one should be a straightforward port from iOS if we get UXKit. Seriously, I see people on my college campus opening QuickTime Player (and sometimes even GarageBand!) in lectures to record audio notes. The need to record and organize audio notes would be much better addressed with a dedicated app.

    • TV. This one should be a straightforward port from iOS if we get UXKit.

    • Animate. Create cinematic 3D animation with the ease-of-use of iLife or Apple Pro Apps. Rendering engine written on top of Metal. (There has been no new Apple pro apps/creative apps launching on the Mac for a very long time. Even Clips is iOS only. 3D animation feels like an area that can really benefit from Apple-calibre UI and UX design and superior performance enabled by its SW+HW integration and lack of legacy baggage)
  20. ivofonseca macrumors newbie


    May 29, 2017
    • Proper support for external GPU: why do people need hacks and DIY solutions to connect an external GPU to a Mac, and in Windows is plug and play? That and the mediocre quality of current Macbook GPUs is alienating a supposed core market of Apple users: graphic professionals;
    • Updated OpenGL drivers and Vulcan support, for the same reason;
    • Better quality Bootcamp support: right now support of Windows on Bootcamp partition not only is barebones (ex. no multi-touch trackpad or mice) but also is buggy.
  21. STEPHEN SNELL macrumors newbie

    Jun 8, 2006


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