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I can't fathom why this application still hasn't been renamed to 'Settings,' yet.
I imagine because it would generate an inconsistency with every single macOS app that has "Preferences..." in its app menu. Which is pretty much every app out there that respects macOS terminology.
 
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It's kind of hard to draw the line, though. Xcode updates used to come through Software Update, but Xcode now gets distributed in the App Store. Why? No real reason. Safari updates come through Software Update and always have.

What makes for the "OS"? Which apps are part of it, and which ones aren't? Pretty much the only definition you could come up with would be tautological: apps that ship through the App Store aren't part of the OS, even when they come from Apple.
On iOS there is an additional wrinkle, some apps ship with the OS but can be deleted and later re-downloaded from the App Store. Though deleting those is more like hiding them, meaning they get updated via iOS updates even if they are not 'installed'.
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Well this will confuse a lot users for needless reasons. I’d argue all updates need to go through the App Store on all devices. The less you have to send users to settings/system preferences the better.
On iOS you do get notifications for system updates but not for app updates (which is 'automatically' sending users to Settings). On macOS, you get notifications for updates for third-party apps (though probably only if you have automatic checking enabled).
 
For those complaining about how slow macOS updates can be as being served from the App store, y'all never installed Windows updates. Not saying moving the updates out of the app store and into their own system preference widget is a bad thing from user experience perspective. But I doubt we'll gain that much performance given updates install quickly anyway.
 
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Hmm. I actually always thought it made more sense in the App Store personally.

But then again it is in settings in iOS so yay consistency.

Yeah why fix what isn’t broken? This why everything is managed and updated in the same place. It made sense in the pre-App Store era but not now.
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For those complaining about how slow macOS updates can be as being served from the App store, y'all never installed Windows updates. Not saying moving the updates out of the app store and into their own system preference widget is a bad thing from user experience perspective. But I doubt we'll gain that much performance given updates install quickly anyway.

macOS updates download and install at light speed compared to how long it took me to update the original Win10 iso to 1803 in Parallels. It must’ve been 12 hours to install it and get it fully up to date! OK, I was on a 20mbit connection when I did it but really even on 100+ it wouldn’t have made much difference! This is one the reasons why I can’t stand Windows. macOS and iOS is much more efficient at updating everything from programs to the OS.
 
I imagine because it would generate an inconsistency with every single macOS app that has "Preferences..." in its app menu. Which is pretty much every app out there that respects macOS terminology.

This explanation is faulty and highly unlikely.

Apple is consistently known for uprooting the developer community and forcing them to adhere to new guidelines. Also, app preferences are in the same location for each app, the OS can easily handle that.
 
Back to the good old days, at least for macOS. It makes much more sense here.

Except it isn't, there used to be a Software Update menu option under the Apple Icon, that should return too.


I am happy though they finally got changed this and hope they will put the menu shortcut back too.

But will it let us download and SAVE an entire OS installation file so we put it on external storage?

You know....some of them are in the /Library/Updates....;)
 
YES, THANK YOU! This is the last thing I expected them to do. The fact that they moved it to the App Store in the first place was idiotic.
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Hmm. I actually always thought it made more sense in the App Store personally.

But then again it is in settings in iOS so yay consistency.


Other way around: Software Update was in the Sys Prefs since the beginning of OSX; it had existed there before the App Store was an idea. I'm glad they moved it back.
 
This explanation is faulty and highly unlikely.

Apple is consistently known for uprooting the developer community and forcing them to adhere to new guidelines. Also, app preferences are in the same location for each app, the OS can easily handle that.
Standard menu items such as "Preferences", "View", "Quit", etc. haven't been frequently moved or changed at all. The Menu Bar is pretty much today what it was back in 2002. It's one of those things that remained largely static throughout every release to date.
 
As a Mac Sysadmin... This is a dream come true for me. Makes managing updates MUCH easier.
 
How does it return to System Preferences? Software Update on Mac OS X was never a part of System Preferences but a separate application you could launch from the Apple Menu.
Software Update was both, plus an :apple: menu item!

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I think they mean the preference pane returned, but now it has more functionality than it ever did. I do miss that app though.
What they actually mean is this!

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Then this:

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Software Update was both, plus an :apple: menu item!
That's nothing different from the current situation. The Software Update prefpane just got updated to an App Store prefpane once all updates moved into the App Store app. For actual updates you still needed the Software Update app. Just like you need the App Store app today. Back then and today you can manage the update settings in System Preferences.
 
I'm of the opinion that macOS needs more of this kind of OS unification across the board. There is no reason to have different icons for the same apps and the bloody circles and tilted icons are dreadful.

Most hardcore Mac users hate this idea of unification but I really want it to go so much further.

The only parts I want apple to leave alone are things like customisations that iOS lacks completely. I should be able to arrange and change everything in macOS to look exactly like iOS "If I want it to" or like anything else. Since apple introduced system integrity protection and blocked downloadable apps by default, I worry MacOS will continue to get locked down to a point where it's unusable for me. That you can still edit the .app files/folders is amazing and long may it continue.
 
That's nothing different from the current situation. The Software Update prefpane just got updated to an App Store prefpane once all updates moved into the App Store app. For actual updates you still needed the Software Update app. Just like you need the App Store app today. Back then and today you can manage the update settings in System Preferences.
It's also different because on those days it didn't open the Mac App Store, or it took you directly to the "Updates" section. It was also a lot faster and seamless. These are two major differences for me. Nowadays to update an app, is not that clean. More than often the download/installation process stalls endlessly. This is specially complicated if you're updating several apps at once. If one stalls, the others will be "waiting" forever.
I really do hope they segment this as it was before - the big difference - in order to optimize the OS.
 
I'm of the opinion that macOS needs more of this kind of OS unification across the board. There is no reason to have different icons for the same apps and the bloody circles and tilted icons are dreadful.

On the contrary, I've always found that iOS's all-squircle icons tend to be too boring and too hard to distinguish.

Most hardcore Mac users hate this idea of unification but I really want it to go so much further.

Each of the four platforms has its own distinctive style: squircles on iOS, rects on tvOS, circles on watchOS.
 
It's also different because on those days it didn't open the Mac App Store, or it took you directly to the "Updates" section. It was also a lot faster and seamless. These are two major differences for me. Nowadays to update an app, is not that clean. More than often the download/installation process stalls endlessly. This is specially complicated if you're updating several apps at once. If one stalls, the others will be "waiting" forever.
I really do hope they segment this as it was before - the big difference - in order to optimize the OS.
Instead of opening the Mac App Store app, it opened the Software Update app. But I agree the latter was nicer. The Mac App Store is just a packaged website. Something I always hated.
 
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