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jonnysods

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And if your Dropbox account has terabytes of data in it, and you have a 500GB internal drive? That was the point of online only files.
Can’t you still mark them as online only if you aren’t using them? Did you read the Dropbox help article? It was more to do with apps not being able to download online only files if you try to open it with an app.
 

jonnysods

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This has made OneDrive nearly unusable for me. The insane delay with opening folders, syncing changes, etc.

It makes my new M1 Pro MacBook Pro way slower than my 2013 MBP when working with files.

It's like every file system call is running through a OneDrive abstraction layer. All the lag of a web interface but with native Finder windows. Did they even test this before rolling it out into production? 12.3 won't be here for a while.
OneDrive always performed worse for me on a Mac vs Dropbox. CPU and battery just got hammered. Hope they sort it for you!
 

seangrimes590

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Jun 21, 2012
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I've been running the M1 native version of one drive since the beta came out, which includes the modern finder integration and I can say that it is AWESOME. no longer is one drive using tons of CPU and all the online vs local etc is native to finder similar to iCloud Drive, its a great upgrade!
When the beta first launched it would skip the trash can when deleting files, is this still going on or have the fixed it? How about moving the OneDrive folder to a custom location, like an external drive? This was blocked in the original beta release, which seemed like a limitation of the API Apple is pushing on cloud providers. Any idea if this has been fixed? Has the online vs local files issue been fixed? Selecting online only for a top level folder wouldn't propagate throughout the full directory structure.
 

jchap

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I've used Dropbox for over a decade now, but the online-only feature has always been problematic for me. When files seems to be "there" on your hard drive but are really stored in the Dropbox "cloud" with just a shortcut of sorts available on your hard drive, that really wreaks havoc when you try to sync the files or preview them. The Finder integration has never worked well for me, and hence I've always used the traditional "offline" setting for all files stored locally in the Dropbox folder.

I wonder if the upcoming Dropbox updates are going to improve that situation, for both the M1 and Intel macOS platforms. ☠️
 

kalafalas

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When the beta first launched it would skip the trash can when deleting files, is this still going on or have the fixed it? How about moving the OneDrive folder to a custom location, like an external drive? This was blocked in the original beta release, which seemed like a limitation of the API Apple is pushing on cloud providers. Any idea if this has been fixed? Has the online vs local files issue been fixed? Selecting online only for a top level folder wouldn't propagate throughout the full directory structure.
Trash can is fixed and online vs local sub directories has been fixed as well.

Not sure about external drive location, haven’t tried myself
 

vinhphm

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Jan 14, 2022
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When the beta first launched it would skip the trash can when deleting files, is this still going on or have the fixed it? How about moving the OneDrive folder to a custom location, like an external drive? This was blocked in the original beta release, which seemed like a limitation of the API Apple is pushing on cloud providers. Any idea if this has been fixed? Has the online vs local files issue been fixed? Selecting online only for a top level folder wouldn't propagate throughout the full directory structure.
I think they mentioned about the external drive part in their blog post. There is a way: https://techcommunity.microsoft.com...es-on-demand-experience-on-macos/bc-p/3066588
 
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wowotoe

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OneDrive is life saver for my works. The codes I changed in VS Code on my Mac almost reflect immediately on my work PC, which is on the other side of the globe. People complaining slowness for OneDrive must trying to open a large file on initial load, which will take some times to download to local.
 

827538

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I've been running the M1 native version of one drive since the beta came out, which includes the modern finder integration and I can say that it is AWESOME. no longer is one drive using tons of CPU and all the online vs local etc is native to finder similar to iCloud Drive, its a great upgrade!
Very excited for this. I'm using Onedrive from the App Store so I have to wait for the full release.
 
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Localcelebrity

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Sounds like everyone is being forced to use the File Provider API? Box.com already uses this in their sync client. StrongSync also uses this tech as a 3rd party sync client for Dropbox, WebDAV, etc.
Didn't Apple announce this API several years ago as a replacement for the crappy hacks that companies like Dropbox did to make their service work natively on macOS?

I don't follow this particular area closely but I feel like the writing has been on the wall for a long time that this would someday be the only officially supported method for doing things like this.

Changes like this make our systems more secure, more stable, and faster.

The fact that Dropbox got caught with their pants down on it is their own fault. They should be more concerned with trying to provide a rock-solid useful product than trying to chase after being a productivity suite or whatever the heck they think they are now.

I ditched them years ago precisely for reasons like this. They were slow to go 64 bit, I've heard they've been slow to support Apple Silicon, I am 1000% unsurprised right now.
 
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Localcelebrity

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This has been a problem since the release of Monterey. I just helped someone with this issue. The problems started after they upgraded from Big Sur to Monterey 12.0.1. The only fix was to wipe the iMac & reinstall Big Sur. Dropbox is now back to normal on this person's iMac running Big Sur. Thankfully the user didn't upgrade any of her other computers to Monterey & we told everyone else in the office to stay put on Big Sur.
When your product digs its hooks so deeply into your computer that users can't upgrade their OS without fear of breaking it, you've made a bad product.
 

Nozuka

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Jul 3, 2012
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I have OneDrive thru my Office365, I tried the app on my iMac and it ... sucked ... using the web interface only, sufficient for my needs

I switched from Dropbox to Onedrive and don't have any problems with it.

Well the the only thing i don't like is that it still shows "Intel" in the taskmanager and feels a bit slower than it was on the Intel Mac, but that should be fixed soon.
 

heikkipekka

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Jun 19, 2008
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While I welcome this up-front alert on unreleased, upcoming macOS 12.3 support, to me it sounds like Dropbox knows they will not be able to support it on time.

I've used Dropbox for 12 years and paid for it most of the time. I can't understand how they need OVER A YEAR to support M1 silicon Macs as they still don't natively support M1 Macs. Now this. Who knows how much time they need this time, when they can't natively support M1 Macs after a year.

The workaround they suggest stinks: after you've manually made all online-only files local, after Dropbox finally sometime (maybe two years?) supports upcoming macOS 12.3, I should go back months (or years) worth of manual settings for all those same files to put them online-only?

Nooooooo!
 

Jonas Danielsson

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So Dropbox started to late again, isn’t it better they download beta versions of macOS, buy beta hardware and when it’s out to customer’s they can polish some paste change and then release in almost the same time.
 

Robejazz

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Good Morning All (It's morning here :) )

I understand that the change is to be for the online only files - and I am OK with that.... but what about the selective sync?? Meaning folders in dropbox that I use for storage etc that I don't even want to see on my computer at all... those will not automatically download, right? I can still have 3 TB in dropbox and only the folders I select will download ??

Thanks !
 

luckman212

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Sep 27, 2009
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Sounds like everyone is being forced to use the File Provider API? Box.com already uses this in their sync client. StrongSync also uses this tech as a 3rd party sync client for Dropbox, WebDAV, etc.
That's what my first thought was too. Side note: I tried Strongsync and it's really cool, but was riddled with bugs. I tried to contact the developer a few times but got no response. Too bad, it was a very cool concept, and was super fast.
 
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pruppert

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I've been running the M1 native version of one drive since the beta came out, which includes the modern finder integration and I can say that it is AWESOME. no longer is one drive using tons of CPU and all the online vs local etc is native to finder similar to iCloud Drive, its a great upgrade!

Anyone know if this version improves performance on Intel Macs too? OneDrive seems to constantly run 100-400% CPU and the fans for me.
 
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LordDeath

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Feb 28, 2013
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I wonder if this will affect Google Drive?
I don't think so.
Google Drive uses a FUSE filesystem layer, independent of Apple's File Provider API. The drawback is that all regular file access still has to go through this userland layer, which increases CPU overhead. For comparison, we can stop or pause the Dropbox client, do some heavy video editing inside the Dropbox folder at native I/O speed and then sync our changes afterward. Unfortunately, with Google Drive, the virtual volume gets unmounted if we stop the client, and pausing the sync does not redeem us from the additional CPU overhead caused by FUSE.
For regular office work with small documents, this overhead is negligible. Still, this would be a significant drawback for the heavy lifting that would benefit from the multi-gigabyte transfer speed of modern SSDs. I would not do any video editing in that Google Drive volume.
 
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