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macOS 26 Rumored to Drop Support for These Five Macs
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Uh oh, that weird 2019 iMac that was late without T2 was holding OCLP together. T2 will make it far harder and bugger to decrypt the bootloader and get macOS26 support on other macs. That does start a timer on the project, though there's still years of security updates to go for Sequoia so they can keep going and fine tuning existing OS's for years to come.
If we consider that intel macs according to rumors are still gonna be supported this round, and that there is a big gap in performance between intel and M1, I would expect Apple to support these last for AT LEAST 2 years after intel, hence at least till macOS 28.
This is what both logic and hope lead me to think.
This is what both logic and hope lead me to think.
Would be interesting to hear the reasoning. It is not like the Intel macs from 2018 are that different inbetween them (except the iMacs that don't have T2).
I mean, if you can support one of them, why not all of them?
One day, Intel support will be gone, for sure, but dropping random models without real technical reasons just make Apple look bad.
I mean, if you can support one of them, why not all of them?
One day, Intel support will be gone, for sure, but dropping random models without real technical reasons just make Apple look bad.
Thinking of the same. Which means Apple could do some hyper focused optimisation with macOS 27.
Not sure I want to give up my setup: iMac Pro 10-core, MacBook Pro 16 2019 and a mac mini 2018 i7/64/1TB. Yes, I do have a 14" M1 Max too, but the 16" has a nicer screen, without the silly notch.
Not feeling all that different in day-to-day work between them. And the mac mini is great for running loads of VMs under Fusion.
Well, at least 2 more years before I have to rethink things, at least.
Not feeling all that different in day-to-day work between them. And the mac mini is great for running loads of VMs under Fusion.
Well, at least 2 more years before I have to rethink things, at least.
I hope every Apple Silicon mac is supported for longer than any Intel mac. They fully control the full SoC and all its associated drivers, and it's not holding them back from dumping any binaries like the Intel ones are which is one reason they drop a release year ever year. 5 years for an Intel mac is something I'd consider ok on a smartphone but outright bad on a desktop OS. At 8 years for the best Intel mac, I don't think asking for 10 years of support for Apple Silicon is unreasonable.
How long will the last Intel Macs be supported? macOS Sonoma gives us some hints
Nearly 20 years of data show how Intel Macs are faring as Apple switches chips.
arstechnica.com
Yeah, unfortunately I'd only expect it to be a few percent better, not a drastic change in their software QA which has been total garbage for over a decade including on iOS where you can't blame x86 binaries somehow making it worse
I find it so frustrating that Apple arbitrarily drops OS support like this.
My 2015 15" MBP runs wonderfully on Sequoia via OCLP.
There's really no good reason for Apple to not be including older machines in OS support for FAR longer than they are.
My 2015 15" MBP runs wonderfully on Sequoia via OCLP.
There's really no good reason for Apple to not be including older machines in OS support for FAR longer than they are.
I currently use Intel Macs for myself and some staff, (we're in industrial electronics and process).
I've found that I can't use the M series processors, they don't have the support/drivers necessary and as such I currently have 3 Macbook Pro and a Mac Pro left that are supported.
After that I'll have to start leaving Apple behind and I have to admit I'm not at all looking forward saying goodbye to OSX.
Let’s cross fingers 🤞🏼I hope every Apple Silicon mac is supported for longer than any Intel mac. They fully control the full SoC and all its associated drivers, and it's not holding them back from dumping any binaries like the Intel ones are which is one reason they drop a release year ever year. 5 years for an Intel mac is something I'd consider ok on a smartphone but outright bad on a desktop OS. At 8 years for the best Intel mac, I don't think asking for 10 years of support for Apple Silicon is unreasonable.
How long will the last Intel Macs be supported? macOS Sonoma gives us some hints
Nearly 20 years of data show how Intel Macs are faring as Apple switches chips.
Reminds me of those articles about the people who still use PowerPC macs for one specific thing, some DAC or niche scientific software or something or other that they just can't get over or is more expensive that it's worth to.
I guess now we're just old enough to be those people, eh?
My coworkers made me use Mac OS 9 for their (and your) amusement
If you want to appreciate the present, try living in the past for a few days.
arstechnica.com
The stinky thing of Apple's dropping support practices is that they drop support by generation, not actual specs. It does not matter if you have the base Macbook Pro 2018 or the maxed one, you are out anyway.
Wondering if they will do the same with the M devices, like dropping generation independently if you configured the device with base M or Pro or Max.
Wondering if they will do the same with the M devices, like dropping generation independently if you configured the device with base M or Pro or Max.
Yes, it feels icky that it's just a year at a time, rather than the old model of a technical line in the sand, even if arbitrary. When it was 64 bit drivers or Metal or Metal 2, ok, but now it's just getting rid of support with sometimes a line drawn between very similar systems with nothing architecturally different but the year moving forward.
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There is no logical justification whatsoever to drop the 2019 iMac, while continuing to support the 2020 iMac.
Literally just greed and planned obsolescence.
Literally just greed and planned obsolescence.
As someone whose family still owns a 2020 Intel-based MacBook Air, I'm a little puzzled by the discontinuation of this model when the iMac introduced just six months later is still in the mix. Perhaps it's the fact that the 2020 MacBook Air had a very short shelf life (discontinued in November of 2020) while the iMac was around into early 2022. Our MacBook Air was my daughter's machine in high school but it became apparent that it wasn't enough for college, so it was replaced by an 14" M4 Max MacBook Pro. My wife uses the MacBook Air now but its clear that this machine's shelf life will come to an end soon, if anything for new macOS updates. (not security related)
There’s also just turning it into a Linux machine, which I suspect will be what we do with older M-Macs someday as well.
It’s fairly clear that software support is now just determined by the sales division at Apple. It’s arbitrary and it’s morally wrong.