What about us iTunes lovers? Dedicate an outrage in our name! Bring back iTunes, Apple! We love the sluggish bloat!
Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
macOS Catalina Causes Issues for DJs Who Used iTunes With XML File Support
- Thread starter MacRumors
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
Difficult. Apple SDKs typically provide about half the information and features, and are way more cumbersome to use than operating on the data store directly.
Quick to post and didn’t even read the article. If you read it you’d know they weren’t talking about DJs playing music from iTunes.
Was a bit surprising to see on front page. Not like it was something serious like another Apple TV show preview.
It's also driving my ram nuts, somehow iTunes is using 25gb of ram, and then jumping to 50? This is a 24gb machine. I never had any of these issues in the Catalina beta.
Apple removing features can be annoying at times, but they certainly are under no obligation to support something that they never documented as a feature, but rather simply used as an underlying storage medium in an older app. That is an inherent risk of using undocumented or private APIs.
Well, they have provided API access for years, so these DJ apps shouldn't still be using this hack. Besides they have had 4 months to fix their apps.
[automerge]1570491898[/automerge]
These apps were relying on a hack, when there was an api access available.
Professional DJ apps use iTunes for library management, assuming - often correctly - that DJs will source a lot of music from iTunes. iTunes for all its faults is also more user-friendly for library management tasks than some of their baked-in solutions.
[automerge]1570492897[/automerge]
One would assume Serato et al - wishing to sell software that works on modern operating systems - would at least keep abreast of these developments. It’s on them, not Apple, and not users.
Incorrect. Catalina addresses the bloat and performance issues users have complained about for years. They are explicitly in touch with their users by finally addressing this problem. The companies whose DJ apps ignored years of API support for accessing libraries are the ones out of touch with their user base.
Not surprised this came from The Verge, the site that recently ran this story:
www.theverge.com
Federal judge says nobody cares about the iPhone’s notch
He’s right, it’s not a big deal
www.theverge.com
FYI - The latest beta of serato supports the new Music app, however I'm not getting any of my playlists to show up.
I'd say 90 percent of the DJs I know use Macs, so this is a big deal. It would be like if the new OS broke Adobe CC...
And yes as others have said, I use all of this software to earn a living as well. Obviously it's not compulsory to upgrade but I'm sure many of us would like to.
Additionally, Roland products that work via USB cannot connect in Catalina, so this represents an even larger segment of the music industry than just DJs.
I'd say 90 percent of the DJs I know use Macs, so this is a big deal. It would be like if the new OS broke Adobe CC...
And yes as others have said, I use all of this software to earn a living as well. Obviously it's not compulsory to upgrade but I'm sure many of us would like to.
Additionally, Roland products that work via USB cannot connect in Catalina, so this represents an even larger segment of the music industry than just DJs.
i was clarifying for the one who thinks DJs are using itunes. i’m not sure why you just explained that to me. 🤷🏻♂️
Its not just DJ's... Many other apps hook into XML support for use of apps,, including "questionable" apps
And i doubt the alternatives would be any better.
The API is not new (it's been final release for 3 or more years). It's been around and documented. One of the apps you mentioned has already transitioned over to the API. The API has nothing to do with the new Music app. It's something built-in to the OS. The new Music App probably uses the same API.
