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MacOS is now more trusted in the workplace than windows 11

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Mrbiggestman

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So according to Omnissa research, a study found that windows users were 3.1 times more likely to force shut down their device compared to macOS and 2.2 times more likely to experience an application crash with a whooping 7.5 times more likely to experience an app hang on them. This comes from Ominissa digital workspace research.

More information can be found here:

website source:
www.notebookcheck.net

Windows devices saw 3.1x more forced shutdowns than macOS

Omnissa says Windows devices in its enterprise telemetry dataset saw 3.1 times more forced shutdowns than macOS in 2025, alongside higher crash and app-hang rates.
www.notebookcheck.net www.notebookcheck.net

Windows forum report:
windowsforum.com

Omnissa Telemetry: Macs Patch Faster and Are More Reliable Than Windows in Enterprise

Enterprise PCs are not simply aging badly; they are increasingly being judged against a higher bar that Apple spent years training the market to expect. Omnissa’s telemetry-backed State of Digital Workspace findings suggest that, in managed fleets, macOS devices are updated faster, experience...
windowsforum.com windowsforum.com

MacOS website report:
www.cultofmac.com

Macs last nearly twice as long in the enterprise as Windows PCs

A new analysis of computers used in the enterprise finds that Macs and iPhones last much longer and have far fewer problems.
www.cultofmac.com www.cultofmac.com
 
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Not having read the articles, I wonder if the number of users was taken into account. Sure, raw numbers for the Mac are lower than for Windows systems, but are the stats weighted?
 
From the title, I thought this was going to be how Windows is actually malware. (If you consider adware malware, which I do; and spyware malware, which I also do, then Windows is definitionally malware.)
 
A meaningless piece of research .There are far more PC's in the workplace so how on earth can that fact be true.
 
Gregg2 said:
Not having read the articles, I wonder if the number of users was taken into account. Sure, raw numbers for the Mac are lower than for Windows systems, but are the stats weighted?
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Why would the stats need to be weighted?
If they had 2 million Mac users and 50 million Windows users, the rate of, say, avg. crashes per month per machine needs no weighting.
 
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Mrbiggestman said:
So according to Omnissa research, a study found that windows users were 3.1 times more likely to force shut down their device compared to macOS and 2.2 times more likely to experience an application crash with a whooping 7.5 times more likely to experience an app hang on them. This comes from Ominissa digital workspace research.
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In my workplace Macs are still rather hated as an inconvenience. The powers that be would prefer everyone was on the common standard PC laptop running the common standard Windows 11 setup with no deviations at all.

Researchers can say what they like, but we are a massive organisation and Macs are rather an exception. That annoys me, but that's how it is.

I use both Windows 11 on my own Mac Pro and MacOS 26.5, I usually find no problems in Windows 11. The issues only occurred when I went to LG 6K screens. MacOS has deteriorated a bit with liquid glass, not as fast as it used to be.

That's on my Apple "M" devices as well.
 
avro707 said:
In my workplace Macs are still rather hated as an inconvenience. The powers that be would prefer everyone was on the common standard PC laptop running the common standard Windows 11 setup with no deviations at all.

Researchers can say what they like, but we are a massive organisation and Macs are rather an exception. That annoys me, but that's how it is.

I use both Windows 11 on my own Mac Pro and MacOS 26.5, I usually find no problems in Windows 11. The issues only occurred when I went to LG 6K screens. MacOS has deteriorated a bit with liquid glass, not as fast as it used to be.

That's on my Apple "M" devices as well.
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Also biggest factor is cost as most people if they have one at home will know the windows system and not a Mac .You would have to train huge numbers of people to use a new system . Then there is the cost of a Mac as opposed to a Pc

It not going to happen.
 
I've yet to see any business running on macOS. However, those that do run Windows always say the same thing to me: "Hold on, my computer is being slow."
 
WarmWinterHat said:
Never been in a workplace that uses macOS.

We're still using Windows 10.
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In the company I retired from, Apple products were restricted to a small number of people in Sales (positive image) and the department that did artwork/promo stuff. The remaining employees (roughly 100,000) used Windows PCs and Samsung devices.

It was not that the company disliked Apple; they preferred Android's open architecture, which enabled us to have custom, homegrown apps and to manipulate the OS as needed, and Windows was easier to manage at the corporate network level than Apple.
 
Interesting. I have had Finder crash on me twice on Sequoia, and one of those times was after waking the machine up from sleep and logging in. The other time I did something to crash it.

I never saw a crash on my iMac 5K in the 11 years I have owned it, and it has only 8 GB RAM. I have used it as extensively as my PC, including a bit of gaming, and it has never missed a beat.

I have never had Windows or Windows Explorer crash on me in over 10 years, and I use my PC heavily to develop and test software.

Overall, I'd say the Mac was as stable as Windows, with both being outstanding. I rarely have a problem with my Windows machine that I didn't cause, but then again I'm an ultra-super-power-user who absolutely obliterates the OS of all the trash, so I don't encounter the nonsense the average user would.

I found Apple/OSX/iPhone to be so good that I recommend them to family and friends. Never had any phone calls since they moved from PC (I'm the stereotypical IT support guy in the family). They have been very pleased with how well they work and trouble-free they have been.
 
Casper461 said:
Also biggest factor is cost as most people if they have one at home will know the windows system and not a Mac .You would have to train huge numbers of people to use a new system . Then there is the cost of a Mac as opposed to a Pc

It not going to happen.
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When I convinced my father to move from Windows to Mac, I spent about 2 hours showing him where to find everything. The rest he figured out himself.

The only downside has been some of the tools he uses are Windows only (e.g. oscilloscopes). He runs a VM for those. He has one of the last Intel-based iMacs.
 
blufrog said:
When I convinced my father to move from Windows to Mac, I spent about 2 hours showing him where to find everything. The rest he figured out himself.

The only downside has been some of the tools he uses are Windows only (e.g. oscilloscopes). He runs a VM for those. He has one of the last Intel-based iMacs.
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There is a world of difference in showing one person the basics and a large company having to transition perhaps 100s of people if not more to a whole new operating system .
 
Casper461 said:
There is a world of difference in showing one person the basics and a large company having to transition perhaps 100s of people if not more to a whole new operating system .
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Tailored video introductions would solve that! People need to stop being so dumb. They can use a keyboard and mouse, and recognize UI elements like menu bars and things. FFS.
 
blufrog said:
Overall, I'd say the Mac was as stable as Windows,
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Geenrally speaking I found windows to be incredibly stable, though I will say that past few months, Microsoft has not put their best foot forward. Constant out of band updates, because Patch Tuesday broke something significant. Outside of that, however I've largely had zero issues with Windows.

For me, its more of their philosophy capturing my usage info, data, and marketing advertisements on an operating system I paid for. The Constant addition of Copilot into every nook and cranny of the OS, was the largely the deal breaker for me. I've been using my M4 Max Studio in its inplace, and more recently, I wiped windows off my desktop and install CachyOS and its been such a refreshing experience.
 
blufrog said:
Tailored video introductions would solve that! People need to stop being so dumb. They can use a keyboard and mouse, and recognize UI elements like menu bars and things. FFS.
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You clearly have no idea about what would be involved . What about the huge extra cost ? Machines tech support etc .
 
Casper461 said:
You clearly have no idea about what would be involved . What about the huge extra cost ? Machines tech support etc .
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Huge extra cost of what? If you're buying new computers for something where they don't exist, then it's not really that different to buying PCs. With memory prices being as they are, Macs are looking pretty damn cheap right now.

If you're just deciding to switch from PC to Mac "just because", well then it is up to whoever made that decision to determine whether they can afford the cost to do it.

I hate these cost arguments because you can always justify the cost as being "too high" to do anything.

Just doing something for the hell of it is also a poor argument.

If you can point to a benefit, such as increased up-time, or simplifying a task, then it is much easier to justify.

If you're a company with $3 billion in cash, then do what you want.

Since Windows 2000 (NT kernel) Windows has been very good. Majority of problems are due to bad Windows updates and buggy drivers. The biggest problem is people's insistence that they must "stay up to date". This is why they have so many problems. I disable Windows update, and change drivers rarely. I find drivers that work, and I never have crashes or bricked machines through bad updates. IDGAF about the false argument that the computer is "less secure". It has never been demonstrated that an up-to-date computer is "more secure". There are still bugs being found that date back to code written 30 years ago. There are new zero-days in the latest updates. You're just swapping fixes to known bugs for new, unknown bugs.

Microsoft have damaged their own reputation by adding extraneous junk to the operating system. It's no longer an OS for getting things done; it is loaded with junk-ware that people don't need. First task I always perform with a new version is find the new stuff they added and disable it (by force if necessary). The UI is becoming increasingly garbage to use, too. They have moved stuff around for the sake of it. The latest casualty is Control Panel - they just got rid of that. The updated UI is not more user-friendly. Everyone is going touch-screen crazy so everything is surrounded by acres of empty space. It has become so bad, I have seen applications with only two useful pieces of data on the screen in the whole 4K of space. Absolute insanity.

Let's not forget the move to "add AI to everything". Notepad doesn't need AI! So much for a simple, lightweight text-editor! They have really lost it.

On the whole, this is why people have become disillusioned with Windows. It's no longer about getting work done.

Personally speaking, my PC is now 10 years old. It is still more than enough to do what I do (software engineer) but the fact of the matter is it is getting old (it has had two PSUs and two GPUs and a memory upgrade in that time). I could spend a small fortune on building a new PC, or do what I did which was buy a Mac and run Windows in a VM. I now have the benefit of running my stuff on Mac AND PC, for less than the cost of a new PC.

My friends are doing the same thing (we all work in IT). We're using Macs and running Windows in a VM when we need it.
 
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boswald said:
I've yet to see any business running on macOS. However, those that do run Windows always say the same thing to me: "Hold on, my computer is being slow."
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In the early 2000s, I worked at a software company that developed an IMAP email client exclusively for Windows. 1 out of every 3 engineers had a PowerBook on their desks.
They were developing in UNIX so it didn’t matter. But the funny thing is that it was clear that none of them used the software they developed because they were running OSX.

That observation was instrumental in me taking the leap to Mac and getting my first PowerBook. I never looked back.
 
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