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macOS Sequoia Makes It Harder to Override Gatekeeper Security
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You are coming to a sad realization: Cancel or Allow?
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For those of you familiar with the site eclecticlightcompany.com, Howard has an excellent piece on this subject that he just published today:
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Gatekeeper and notarization in Sequoia
How is it going to be harder to run apps that haven’t been notarized in Sequoia, and does it bring any benefit in return for the inconvenience?
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*All* corporations are inherently political; it's built in to the traded-liberty-for-security liability structure, and why you'll occasionally see founders kicked out of their own companies (because they're not the real boss anymore).
You mean aside from their own working eyeballs? --I've been watching the Mac OS incrementally lock-down for fifteen years, with Apple's now-complete antipathy toward sneakernet-booting being formalized within the last five years.
If you turn the heat up to boiling right away, the frogs jump out of the pan.
They are going to push some of us back to Windows or Linux eventually I guess
What a bummer
What a bummer
You're conflating internal politics with a corporation having external political ambitions. But even ignoring your equivocation here, you still haven't explained why Apple theoretically wanting to lock down macOS qualifies as a political action.
You can't have it both ways. If this long-con plan has been ongoing for 15+ years now, then locking down the OS right now wouldn't be "turning the heat up to boiling right away," would it?
Exactly. Most of the features that get removed from the GUI can be actually really simply re-added with applescript.
I REALLY don't like the removal of right-click, gatekeeper bypass. Apple, PLEASE, add OS devmode and be done with it.
And what to do if you wanna keep this must have feature in the context menu?
Just extend the right click finder context menu. There will be an 3rd party "app" like that in first week of official Sequoia release. Its few lines of code in AppleScript.
Like this (gpte'd). Prompt:
They are removing "right click -> click open" gatekeeper bypass. xattr -r -d com.apple.quarantine /Applications/AppName.app command will stil work tho. It is possible to write an app in AppleScript that extends the right click context menu to add this script as an option on rightclick ?
Result:
It works. Automator is hell of a thing with gpt. I have more than hundred useful scripts in my icloud just for dealing with macos.
Another dumb thing I have to deal with tho.
We are all going to some flavor of Linux eventually, and I'll wager the mass-migration will occur not more than five years from now.
I remember helping some folks I know to get set up on Windows/Linux workstations, moving from Mac Pro’s that were increasingly not something they wanted.. My thinking at the time was Apple wasn’t making anything they wanted to buy anyway, and them holding out hope that one day Apple might make their dream machine just didn’t make any sense anymore. Of course, after getting a few set up and running, there was always the thought in the back of my mind, “What if Apple DOES release that dream Mac Pro? I’m going to be eating crow and, probably, spending some free time migrating folks back to the platform that they are probably still most familiar with and most comfortable with.”Fortunately, for me, each new Mac Pro just solidified, for them AND for me, that they’d made the right decision. Apple could release a Mac Pro with a 1Mhz z-80 and 6k of RAM because “reasons” and it wouldn’t bother them in the least. They’re no longer tied to the whims of what Apple thinks should be the highest power system available that runs the OS they’re using.
If I was currently in a position where I was expected to provided technical analysis and direction for anyone, I would be telling anyone that doesn’t need Final Cut Pro, that doesn’t need Logic and that is not writing applications for the Mac or iOS devices to start considering what they want their next platform to be. It’s as plain now as it was back then where Apple is headed and the sooner folks move to platforms that won’t anger them daily, the better. It’s a good technical choice and, maybe more importantly, good for their emotional well being, too.
If I was currently in a position where I was expected to provided technical analysis and direction for anyone, I would be telling anyone that doesn’t need Final Cut Pro, that doesn’t need Logic and that is not writing applications for the Mac or iOS devices to start considering what they want their next platform to be. It’s as plain now as it was back then where Apple is headed and the sooner folks move to platforms that won’t anger them daily, the better. It’s a good technical choice and, maybe more importantly, good for their emotional well being, too.
It's going to greatly increase the resale value of intel-era Macs.
This.
I wouldn't choose to get back to linux, but it seems that's just a matter of time
It appears that Apple may be changing it so that removing the xattr will only still work with notarized code-signed apps.
I have acquiesced as well. I am enjoying the Mac environment for now but avoiding any major/critical software that further ties me to the platform (e.g. I look for things that are already cross platform with Linux, et all or have reasonable drop-in replacements). The latest hardware would also be faster for my purposes but I've held waiting for a sign that the platform has a future for me. Unfortunately all signals tell me the opposite.
