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For some of us working with legacy files from others and in a different place each day, a USB port would not just be nice. it's essential.
I don't deny that some people still need a USB port frequently. I've just come to realize that I no longer do.

I've given my external optical drive to my sister, who still gets Netflix discs in the mail.
 
For me I personally am hoping for a good update to the MacBook Pro range. I tend to use high-performance devices attached to Thunderbolt 2 most of the time. I would like to see USB 3.1 separate from TB3, personally in my opinion, because if you have both then it will default down to the slowest speed being USB 3.1. I wonder about other peoples interpretation of this protocol. To me TB3 at 40gbps is the way forward, I would like to see thumb drives using this protocol and not USB 3. (But then I am a speed freak!) I am more excited about getting a new Laptop than the new iPhone, for this year.
 
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I personally am starting to experience dongle fatigue since I got my new MacBook Pro last year. Recently, I connected my Thunderbolt Ethernet adapter, since the environment in which I live and work, this is the only way to connect to the Net. I am currently running El Capitan, 10.11.6, but its not connecting to the Network. I don't know why, it works in Sierra, which I have dual booting on another partition. Its just, I know if there was a built in Ethernet, this would work without issue. Now I have to sort out why I am unable to connect.
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202617
 
My short memory tells me it took a very long time to provide iMacs with USB 3.0 ports

Indeed. When I bought my Macmini in 2011, it still had USB 2.0, when almost every other computer at best buy at a similar price level had USB 3.0.
 
My guess is it will ship with 4 ports, one doubled as power.

So, instead of a Macbook Pro we get a HipsterBulk "Pro"? Another thing wrong with the image above (which is photoshopped, I know) is the useless excuse of a keyboard. Why not just replace the whole keyboard with an OLED panel? It would be exactly as 'pleasant' to use and the hipsters would soil yet another pair of pants when they saw it.
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Because these technologies don't matter that much.

Their current understanding seems to be that 'cutting edge' equals thin. Sorry, Apple. You got it wrong. It doesn't mean you should try to make knife thin macbooks. It means you should make them useful. Which is the total opposite of what I currently see. I do hope I'm totally wrong.
 
limited ports... is there going to be a thunderbolt Hub that comes with this stupid thing?

1 port for Power
1 port for Second Monitor
1 port for ethernet
1 port for Headphones?
1 port for USB key?

Need to see the other side... but for now, this looks like a dog.
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Don't forget September and December, they are also rumoured to be months before the end of the year.
Generally Apple releases new products JUST after schools starts so that students do one of 2 things.

BUY an out of Date product so they have to buy new next year/sooner than later
or
WAIT a month into the school year to BUY the latest and "greatest"
 
Their current understanding seems to be that 'cutting edge' equals thin. Sorry, Apple. You got it wrong. It doesn't mean you should try to make knife thin macbooks. It means you should make them useful. Which is the total opposite of what I currently see. I do hope I'm totally wrong.

Everyone I know that has a MacBook finds it useful. If you can't, maybe you're not the target market for that particular machine?
 
dongle fatigue - that's a brilliant phrase.

I'm still rolling along with my CMP with all the ports - and all of them get used.

"upgrading" to something that screws with ethernet, FW and my usb2.0 devices will bring some pain, no doubt. :(
 
I do composing work - having 32, even 64gb, would be beneficial to me. Right now I have to use two machines - that much ram, a little trimming of my orch template, and I could do it all on the laptop (assuming cpu is strong enough).
 
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Where did you read that?

And I'm totally cool with that! Hopefully my thunderbolt display will plug right into my new beauty

That wasn't quite right.

USB-C is the connector type
USB 3 v1 and v2 (10 and 20Gbps) are protocols that use that connector
Thunderbolt 3 (40Gbps) is also a protocol that uses that connector

Not all USB-C ports will support Thunderbolt 3, as in the case of the MacBook.
 
Where did you read that?

And I'm totally cool with that! Hopefully my thunderbolt display will plug right into my new beauty

intel's thunderbolt 3 website pages mention that TB3 uses the USB C port version 2.
As TB3 it does 40gbps, as USB C.2 it does 10gbps.
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That wasn't quite right.

USB-C is the connector type
USB 3 v1 and v2 (10 and 20Gbps) are protocols that use that connector
Thunderbolt 3 (40Gbps) is also a protocol that uses that connector

Not all USB-C ports will support Thunderbolt 3, as in the case of the MacBook.

Yes, but I really don't care about overpriced MacBook Retina toys.
 
TB3 is even lamer than the previous ones. No upgrade to DP 1.3.

And thank you for breaking direct backward compatibility.
 
intel's thunderbolt 3 website pages mention that TB3 uses the USB C port version 2.
As TB3 it does 40gbps, as USB C.2 it does 10gbps.
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Yes, but I really don't care about overpriced MacBook Retina toys.

I'll have to check that out. Same shape port as TB2?
 
intel's thunderbolt 3 website pages mention that TB3 uses the USB C port version 2.
As TB3 it does 40gbps, as USB C.2 it does 10gbps.
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Yes, but I really don't care about overpriced MacBook Retina toys.

We were both mistaken — there is USB 3.1 Gen 1 and Gen 2 and there is USB-C. The former two are protocols, the latter is a connector. USB 3.1 Gen 1 is 5Gbps, Gen 2 is 10Gbps. TB3 which uses the same USB-C connector is 40Gpbs.

I was wrong about the speeds (I said 10/20Gbps vs 5/10). But there is no USB-C v1 or v2. USB-C is USB-C. It's a port/connector.
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I'll have to check that out. Same shape port as TB2?

no

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_Type-C

TB2 used the miniDisplayPort
 
We were both mistaken — there is USB 3.1 Gen 1 and Gen 2 and there is USB-C. The former two are protocols, the latter is a connector. USB 3.1 Gen 1 is 5Gbps, Gen 2 is 10Gbps. TB3 which uses the same USB-C connector is 40Gpbs.

I was wrong about the speeds (I said 10/20Gbps vs 5/10). But there is no USB-C v1 or v2. USB-C is USB-C. It's a port/connector.
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no

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_Type-C

TB2 used the miniDisplayPort

I know that, but I tend not to care about pedantic levels of precision in descriptions. ;)
 
My short memory tells me it took a very long time to provide iMacs with USB 3.0 ports

They took FOREVER. When I bought my 2011 Macmini at Best Buy, it was the only desktop in the store at that price level that still had USB 2.0...!
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If that were at all possible for me, I would, but I've already been waiting for a very long time to upgrade. It has to happen soon...
[doublepost=1472140349][/doublepost]Oh, btw... Is USB 3.1 meant to be any less a piece of s*** than USB 3, in terms of actually connecting to devices, not randomly ejecting drives, etc.?

THIS^^^ pisses me off to no end!
 
They took FOREVER. When I bought my 2011 Macmini at Best Buy, it was the only desktop in the store at that price level that still had USB 2.0...!
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THIS^^^ pisses me off to no end!

Randomly ejecting USB drives is a "feature" of Yosemite and El Capitan. It is being fixed again in Sierra apparently.
 
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