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**** that.

No option to install apps from "anywhere"? Mandatory binary code signing? No thanks.

Christ, I hate Windows 10 as much as the next guy, but not even Microsoft requires signed binaries on x86_64. What's next, people are going to find out that csrutil is missing and SIP is now mandatory to boot?

-SC
I think the point is that you will always have to approve installation manually. Let's face it. There is a trade-off between security and convenience.
 
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If RAID support is missing from 10.11 how did someone upgrade from 10.10 to 10.11? Did it UnRaid your partition?
I'm using 10.6 raid for years with no problems.
 
If they drop Intel Macs, I'm out.

I have multiple VMs I run, and having to wait until ARM outperforms Intel, and the instruction translation isn't ass?
Uh... no thanks.

Even though four of them are Windows VMs I'll probably migrate the VMs to VMWare, and run them on a Windows desktop should Apple switch to ARM on the desktop.
A Windows 10 VM on Windows 10 seems dumb, but hey, I'll have no choice if that happens.

Not to mention the apps I use compiled for x86/x86_64 that are no longer updated.
Some of them like SIDPLAY I wish were, I haven't found anything else to play Commodore 64 SID files which allows me to properly manage the HVSC library.


I remember when Intel Atom based computers were being touted, at least I heard them explained that way, as THE NEXT REVOLUTION IN THE PERSONAL COMPUTER *TA-DAH!* And now those unicycle driven things aren't to be seen.

I'm not happy thinking that they will tell all of us to use computers with a gerbil running on a treadmill to power it.

The idea of 'platform uniformity' seems to have died with Windows 10 coming after the disastrous Windows 8x excursion to crazytown. Using mobile processors on the desktop is another daft idea that possibly explains the lack of an update to the MacPro.
 
I certainly hope you can control which types of files get uploaded to free up space. For example, just because I don't use a font regularly or haven't for awhile means I want it off my system. I really don't want to open up a file and have to wait for a font to be installed - and I also like having all my fonts available because you never know when you might use that rare one.
 
I certainly hope you can control which types of files get uploaded to free up space. For example, just because I don't use a font regularly or haven't for awhile means I want it off my system. I really don't want to open up a file and have to wait for a font to be installed - and I also like having all my fonts available because you never know when you might use that rare one.

Yes, the whole idea of 'near real time access' is great when you have time to wait for the file to be downloaded to use it, but in practice, it's crap for people that use a lot of documents on a seasonal, or occasional basis.

There had damn well be a way to shut that 'feature' off for people that don't want to use it, and there had better be more levels of extortion from Apple for their iCloud fantastic-ness that they are desperately trying to force people to use.

Given their repeated outages with their other 'cloud based' services, I'm really chomping at the bit to have my bits spun off to the other end of an internet connection that can't deliver 100% 100% of the time.

And spinning ebooks you have read to cloud storage seems like it's from the 'you read that book, toss it' camp. I am a digital horder. I LOVE ebooks. They take up a lot less shelf space, don't decompose over time, and I am perhaps an oddity as I do re-read great books I've read from time to time. Like I watch 'old movies' too. Dune, Fifth Element (which is why I will NOT do NetFlix), and the Star Wars original movies, among others. (Which by the way, are they going to spin music off that you haven't listened to in a while? Who decides what 'a while' is?)

Apple seems to be charting a voyage to a destination I can't see wanting to go to. Either that, or I really am an old fossil...
 
Euhm.. could you like, not touch my files and move them elsewhere? Okay? Thanks.
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Apple File System. What could go wrong?

"Oh you can't access your files? Just wait few weeks for update".
 
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yeah I don't want any of my stuff automatically stored in the cloud. My iCloud gives me warnings that it is getting full already and all I have on there is device backups. I am not paying for more storage
 
Yes, the whole idea of 'near real time access' is great when you have time to wait for the file to be downloaded to use it, but in practice, it's crap for people that use a lot of documents on a seasonal, or occasional basis.

There had damn well be a way to shut that 'feature' off for people that don't want to use it, and there had better be more levels of extortion from Apple for their iCloud fantastic-ness that they are desperately trying to force people to use.

Given their repeated outages with their other 'cloud based' services, I'm really chomping at the bit to have my bits spun off to the other end of an internet connection that can't deliver 100% 100% of the time.

And spinning ebooks you have read to cloud storage seems like it's from the 'you read that book, toss it' camp. I am a digital horder. I LOVE ebooks. They take up a lot less shelf space, don't decompose over time, and I am perhaps an oddity as I do re-read great books I've read from time to time. Like I watch 'old movies' too. Dune, Fifth Element (which is why I will NOT do NetFlix), and the Star Wars original movies, among others. (Which by the way, are they going to spin music off that you haven't listened to in a while? Who decides what 'a while' is?)

Apple seems to be charting a voyage to a destination I can't see wanting to go to. Either that, or I really am an old fossil...

I'd like this more than once if I could :) Agree with everything.

There's no guarantee that any service will still exist in the future and/or that the rights negotiated will be in perpetuity. I'd rather not have content I paid for under the assumption I would "own" it suddenly becomes null and void and disappears from my library.
 
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**** that.

No option to install apps from "anywhere"? Mandatory binary code signing? No thanks.

Christ, I hate Windows 10 as much as the next guy, but not even Microsoft requires signed binaries on x86_64. What's next, people are going to find out that csrutil is missing and SIP is now mandatory to boot?

-SC

If they don't put the unsigned apps setting back in the official release, my 12 years of mac use is coming to an end.
 
I wonder if iCloud will use matching like it does with Apple Music.

"So you had a file called newdesign.psd – guess what, this guy from India had one too! They're different sizes, different Photoshop versions, but who cares? We saved you space. THANK US"
But imagine the possibilities of the photos exchange with other users.

We matched your DSCN298.jpg from the album "Private party" with DSCN298.jpg from Kate in NY, from the album "Private party".

It's a new social network :D
 
Is it just me or does this Optimized Storage functionality seem not well thought out. So I don't really know where my files are stored and Apple makes no availability guarantees with respect to iCould storage, so my seldom used but really important file could be just gone and I would never know until I needed it?

Yeah, it's probably you. At least if you base your entire comment on what you heard in the keynote.
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I wonder if iCloud will use matching like it does with Apple Music.

"So you had a file called newdesign.psd – guess what, this guy from India had one too! They're different sizes, different Photoshop versions, but who cares? We saved you space. THANK US"

I hope for your sake that you're being ironic. If you really think they would implement it like that, I don't know what to tell you :p
 
Just read the Apple File System Guide and I think it's the most exciting feature of the new macOS. Wonder why they didn't mention it in detail at WWDC, probably don't want the FBI to freak out again.

Probably because a new file system is not really headline grabbing material. Frankly, it might even scare off consumers and investors alike. Apple Pay on the web, opening up with SDK's and iMessage apps, is a lot more palatable. But yes, this has potential to make the iPad into a highly productive tablet.
 
They're not allowing it to do a whole lot, simply due to the fact that this is a very early version, and the filesystem is a very fundamental part of an OS. Beta filesystems are never fun to use (especially as a boot partition), and I'm betting this is no exception. Apple is smart playing it safe, especially given the wave of users coming in July to the beta.

Well at this point it's then not really useful - even for developers to test. You can format an external drive with it, copy your useless files there and then what ... ? Currently you can't even test snapshots. Basically so far it's... Meh... Wake me when you can actually test something useful on apfs
 
This new system of freeing storage is nothing unless you are willing to pay for the icloud sub. The free 5GB is nothing these days.
 
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If RAID support is missing from 10.11 how did someone upgrade from 10.10 to 10.11? Did it UnRaid your partition?
I'm using 10.6 raid for years with no problems.

I would assume (someone can correct me if I'm wrong) that a RAID virtual disk was still recognized by OS X, but you couldn't manage the RAID array in El Cap.

Apple File System. What could go wrong?

"Oh you can't access your files? Just wait few weeks for update".

Was there some big, horrible transition to NTFS that I missed? It doesn't really matter that much.
 
I don't see the point of removing the option from gate keeper. Its a perfectly valid option....

If they don't put the unsigned apps setting back in the official release, my 12 years of mac use is coming to an end.


You can still press option to open the application for the first time.... but still, there's little reason why Apple should remove it.. unless they are slowly preparing for macOS lock down; something I don't think will happen, in the foreseeable future anyway.

Its the continued dumbification of macOS...

This new system of freeing storage is nothing unless you are willing to pay for the icloud sub. The free 5GB is nothing these days.
Given the price of storage - which is cheap, I would like to think that Apple would increase the free band to a more usable size... ( note: like to think vs reality ).
 
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