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I’ve been running the Tahoe betas across a few Macs, and just tried the RC again on another machine. Honestly? I’m still resisting the jump.

Liquid Glass just isn’t clicking for me. On iPhone and iPad, I’ve made my peace with it. But on the Mac, it feels more like clutter than clarity, especially inside Finder windows. Instead of elegance, it introduces layers of visual noise that pull my eye in all the wrong directions.

I’ve explored the accessibility toggles, which blunt some of the effect, but the whole thing still feels… patched on. It reminds me of those old third-party skinning apps from back in the day—where yes, technically everything “worked,” but the seams were obvious and the polish wasn’t there. That’s the vibe Tahoe gives off right now: functional, but with too many rough edges to feel like a natural evolution of macOS.

And honestly? I really feel for the engineers. I know there are soooo many features I'm sure they're wanting to get to, and so many unresolved bug reports submitted by many of us (myself included), and ultimately just so much cruft that's built-up within the system over so many past versions.

To be clear, I’m not trying to start a “bash Liquid Glass” dogpile. My gripe is less about the idea and more about the execution. I’ve always been one of the first to update—sometimes even reckless about it—but this time around, I’m perfectly content staying on Sequoia. In fact, I’d prefer to hang onto it for as long as possible.

Of course, I know the clock is ticking. Features will eventually get locked behind Tahoe—both from Apple and from third-party developers. That’s already starting: Xcode’s new AI integration requires Tahoe for reasons Apple hasn’t explained. It’s a glimpse of the inevitable pressure to move forward, whether you like the design direction or not.

For now though, Sequoia feels stable, clean, and consistent. And unless something changes dramatically between RC and release, Tahoe just isn’t ready to be my daily driver.

For those who've been braver than me and upgraded already, how's it holding up in day-to-day use? I'm especially curious for folks who are using pro apps (video or design). I'm honestly nervous about how Final Cut and other apps are going to start looking once they more heavily adopt Liquid Glass.
 
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final cut (and logic) look like they always look, really. LG has not radically changed my interactions with those apps.

LG has vanished into the background, i don't think about it at all (since about beta2 or 3); am just doing my work, and play, and enjoying stability & speed. i think that everyone will adapt, LG will (possibly) change over future betas, but either way, am enjoying tahoe.
 
final cut (and logic) look like they always look, really. LG has not radically changed my interactions with those apps.

LG has vanished into the background, i don't think about it at all (since about beta2 or 3); am just doing my work, and play, and enjoying stability & speed. i think that everyone will adapt, LG will (possibly) change over future betas, but either way, am enjoying tahoe.
Problem for me with LG is background pictures, with dark or light mode selected. LG makes the anything on a light background harder to read. Issue is light colors behind them. Darker colors are fine. I see the same on IOS and iPadOS with light areas on screen. Some you can't change font size. Like favorites bar or open tabs in Safari. The opening page with Privacy report is awful.
 
Problem for me with LG is background pictures, with dark or light mode selected. LG makes the anything on a light background harder to read. Issue is light colors behind them. Darker colors are fine. I see the same on IOS and iPadOS with light areas on screen. Some you can't change font size. Like favorites bar or open tabs in Safari. The opening page with Privacy report is awful.
guess it depends on what you use for a background image, as i am not experiencing this as an issue. but i can see where it could be a problem...
 
final cut (and logic) look like they always look, really. LG has not radically changed my interactions with those apps.
Final Cut and Logic have not yet been updated for Liquid Glass at all. Remains to be seen what that will look like, but it will happen eventually.
 
Final Cut and Logic have not yet been updated for Liquid Glass at all. Remains to be seen what that will look like, but it will happen eventually.
those apps, updated, usually experience changes in their UI independent of the OS; hence ppl running those apps on older OSes without issue. the only things i am seeing are system-level (like notification windows, etc).

anyway, am not the least worried about it, and look forward to potential new features, options, and (hopefully) bug fixes
 
Honestly, no idea, we'll have to wait and see. Only saying that you can infer absolutely nothing about the usability of Liquid Glass from apps that aren't even using Tahoe's SDK (and thus Liquid Glass) yet. The apps will basically look and behave identically for now, as you wrote.
 
Hy from Germany. I have a problem with my MacBook

After at least five attempts to install macOS Tahoe, I've given up. Using System Preferences and a USB drive, no luck. My MacBook Air simply won't update. I turned off the Wi-Fi connection, and SIP is disabled. I've tried various Wi-Fi networks. I'm at my wit's end. Maybe there's a trick that might help.

MacBook Air

Apple M4 Chip
16GB
 
Honestly, no idea, we'll have to wait and see. Only saying that you can infer absolutely nothing about the usability of Liquid Glass from apps that aren't even using Tahoe's SDK (and thus Liquid Glass) yet. The apps will basically look and behave identically for now, as you wrote.

If you compile your SwiftUI based app on Sequoia and run on Tahoe your app will look identical to before.

If you compile your app without code changes on Tahoe your app is going to probably have UI issues, especially if you have a sidebar with group boxes, dropdown menus and UI buttons. Liquid Glass is forced upon your app.

The button styles, group box padding and default text sizes on dropdown menus have all changed. The new curved corners will force you to change padding and other things, which might break how your app looks on an older macOS so you have to write conditions for different versions of macOS.

Some of the changes such as buttons are very flat and ugly. The flatness makes them look like they’re already being pressed down or disabled instead of being clickable.

There’s no fallback available even if you set in Xcode 26 that you are building for macOS 14 as your earliest target for backwards compatibility. You have to build on Sequoia with a macOS 13 or 14 target if you want to maintain your UI.

I feel like Cheetah and Puma there will be a lot of UI fixes and changes in the next months and year. This new Aqua and Liquid Glass theme is very unpolished and should have been tested internally for a longer time before the developer beta season began.
 
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