macOS Ventura 13 RC ― Bug Fixes, Changes, and Improvements

[WilliApple]

MBP 14,3

What year is this? Idk what the 14,3 is.

 

[WilliApple]

Do I get the sense this is going to be a smoother rollout than Monterey was? I'm tired of all of Monterey's quirks and foibles.

Yeah it is very smooth, in my opinion, smoother than Monterey.

 

[Jack Neill]

What year is this? Idk what the 14,3 is.

2017 w/TB MBP 15" 2.8/16/256

 

[azz0r]

I've tried really hard to use Stage manager but its so poor that I've finally disabled it. Which is such a shame because some of the core concepts do improve my day to day.

 

[richmond62]

Frankly Stage Manager just strikes me as a rather cheap trick as one can minimise one's apps, have multipile desktops, have muiltiple monitors, have a headache working out which of the 57 ways one shoved the 15 apps one is using off to the bottom, the left, the right, to top, or the centre . . .

I mean, if you haven't worked out how to manage your workflow (something I worked out in Mac OS 7.1 and so on)
by now what possible extra something is Stage Manager going to give you; after all, the 'problem' (if it is a problem at all) is either in your head or in your "Paris Hiltons". 😛

 

[AAPLGeek]

Frankly Stage Manager just strikes me as a rather cheap trick as one can minimise one's apps, have multipile desktops, have muiltiple monitors, have a headache working out which of the 57 ways one shoved the 15 apps one is using off to the bottom, the left, the right, to top, or the centre . . .

I mean, if you haven't worked out how to manage your workflow (something I worked out in Mac OS 7.1 and so on)
by now what possible extra something is Stage Manager going to give you; after all, the 'problem' (if it is a problem at all) is either in your head or in your "Paris Hiltons". 😛

Just another step in toy-ification of macOS.

Stage manager is dumbed down mission control for zoomers who grew up using single window smartphones.

At some point, Apple will probably release a files app for macOS because some users find Finder “too complex”.

 

[gank41]

Just another step in toy-ification of macOS.

Stage manager is dumbed down mission control for zoomers who grew up using single window smartphones.

At some point, Apple will probably release a files app for macOS because some users find Finder “too complex”.

Or they'll just rebrand Finder.app to Files.app in another update, like they're updating System Preferences to System Settings.

I think at one point before it's existence, Stage Manager looked like a cool idea in a boardroom meeting, made by someone that doesn't actually know how to MAKE Stage Manager... Then someone else in the same meeting put a ludicrous timeframe on its completion. I think a much better year+ long testing of this could maybe do it some good, but seeing the recent rumors that the iPad could be running a 'light' version of macOS next year could be a direct reply to Stage Manager.

It makes sense to start trying to out of 'unify' the look and feel of the iPad & Mac. People in the wild have proven it can be done, and done pretty well! albeit virtually, which in itself says something, too..

 

[azz0r]

Stage manager is useful for
- grouping common tasks, my dev stage vs my lunch time stage vs my docs stage, this is cool
- reducing the noise of my desktop and letting me focus on the apps on that stage
- video content is visible even if it's not the dominant window making multi tasking easy

All good, however it then fails on the basics;
- I use cinch so I drag windows to the edge of the screen and then stage pops up and the layering gets confused
- Dragging and dropping new windows onto the stage doesn't have any animation or transition, really sloppy, or generally work maybe im doing this wrong
- The angle stages show at makes it harder to watch a video playing there, just for the "visual" of it being angular
- Theres no way to scale it up or down, or move it left or right
- I got "stuck" trying to find a chrome window between 3 stages, and when I was trying to drag an image out of the chrome instance into finder it became this impossible task of jugging holding the item and trying to get around stages

Thankfully we can disable it for now, but it feels like that ongoing process to merge with iOS.

 

[yellowhelicopter]

Frankly Stage Manager just strikes me as a rather cheap trick as one can minimise one's apps, have multipile desktops, have muiltiple monitors, have a headache working out which of the 57 ways one shoved the 15 apps one is using off to the bottom, the left, the right, to top, or the centre . . .

I mean, if you haven't worked out how to manage your workflow (something I worked out in Mac OS 7.1 and so on)
by now what possible extra something is Stage Manager going to give you; after all, the 'problem' (if it is a problem at all) is either in your head or in your "Paris Hiltons". 😛

I want a simple native MacOS command which would just show me miniatures of all currently existing windows, hidden and minimized too. Slightly improved Mission Control would be fine. Is it much to ask.