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macOS Ventura - Bug Fixes, Changes, and more!

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macOS Ventura 13

Release Date ― October 24, 2022
Build Number ― 22A380
Delta Update Size ― 5.52 GB (Yup, its a delta update and not an installer now) (Coming from 12.6)
Apple Silicon System Firmware Version ― 8419.41.10 (Changed)
T2 BridgeOS System Firmware Version ― 20.16.411.0.0 (Changed)

macOS Ventura 13 Release Notes

New Features & Changes
New Issues
  • Alarms may not play when display is asleep for a long period of time
    • Workaround: Make your display not fall asleep in Settings > Lock Screen > Turn display off on ____ when inactive. You can turn your brightness off.
  • British keyboard icon in menu bar is wrong - shows as [A]
  • Applescripts to check calendar event alerts don't work
  • Applescripts accessing Contacts fail with a (false) permissions error
  • Calendar events created with a location have a "time to leave" alert set even if that option is disabled in preferences
Remaining Issues
  • Unable to play the next song, previous song, or pause using AirPods or keyboard.
    • Music will also not show in Control Center
    • Workaround: Reboot your Mac
Resolved Issues
Pending Issue Status
Additional Notes

/52 Apps Updated​

App NameOld Build NumberNew Build NumberStatus
Finder13.0Unchanged
Safari16.1 (18614.2.9.1.12)Changed
Messages14.0 (6000)Unchanged
Mail16.0 (3731.200.110.1.12)Unchanged
Maps3.0 (2751.20.7.25.17)Unchanged
Photos8.0 (511.0.180)Changed
FaceTime5.0 (3080)Unchanged
Calendar11.0 (2932)Unchanged
Contacts2536Unchanged
Reminders7.0 (2715)Unchanged
Notes4.10 (2163)Unchanged
TV1.3.0.138Unchanged
Music1.3.0.138Unchanged
Podcasts1.1.0 (1710.17)Unchanged
News8.1 (3232.1)Unchanged
App Store3.0 (1007.1.15)Unchanged
System Settings15.0 (15.0)Unchanged
Clock1.0 (62)Unchanged
Weather3.1 (307.0.2)Unchanged
Calculator10.16 (223)Unchanged
Voice Memos2.3 (2.3)Unchanged
Feedback Assistant5.1 (516)Unchanged
Home7.0 (681.2.3.4.1)Unchanged
Preview11.0 (1042.1)Unchanged
Books5.0 (5693)Unchanged
Photo Booth13.0 (1153)Unchanged
System Information11.0 (915)Unchanged
Stickies10.2 (10.3)Unchanged
Shortcuts6.0 (1206.3.2)Unchanged
Dictionary2.3.0 (294)Unchanged
Find My4.0 (310.1.8)Unchanged
TextEdit1.18 (392)Unchanged
QuickTime Player10.5 (1148.4.1)Unchanged
Grapher2.7 (1)Unchanged
Font Book11.0 (461)Unchanged
Chess3.18 (Build Chess-466.4.1)Unchanged
Image Capture8.0 (1106)Unchanged
Voiceover Utility10 (864)Unchanged
AirPort Utility6.3.9 (639.19)Unchanged
Migration Assistant13.0 (13.0)Unchanged
Terminal2.13 (447)Unchanged
Activity Monitor10.14 (1107)Unchanged
Console1.1 (7.0.3)Unchanged
Keychain Access11.0 (55300.40.2)Unchanged
Automator2.10 (520)Unchanged
Script Editor2.11 (227)Unchanged
Disk Utility22 (1729)Unchanged
Digital Color Meter5.22 (5.22)Unchanged
ColorSync Utility12.0.0 (420)Unchanged
Bluetooth File Exchange9.0 (1)Unchanged
Audio MIDI Setup3.5 (3.5)Unchanged

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Storage Size after updating: 17.87 GB

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From Italy! :D
 
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Good morning / afternoon for everyone.
The actual release candidate 2 build number is 13.0 (22A380).
It seems the same as the actual released version. So comming from RC2 there are no suggested stable upgrades.

If possible would any of you confirm after upgrade process that the release build number is the same 22A380?.
Many thanks .
Regards.
 
WilliApple said:
The update on Apples servers is the same as RC2. However, iOS and iPadOS are different from the RC.
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Correct! Interesting. I removed the Developer Beta Profile and got another update.

Now I am waiting for the full macOS installer on the App Store. I am having odd behavior on long sleep and will try re-installing.
 
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Oh guys, battery on Monterey SUCKS compared to Ventura... I got through the day with more than half a tank left.

Day isn't over yet, but...
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Can't wait to install Ventura on my main volume.
 
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Does WindowServer still crash a bunch, mainly when waking from sleep? Specifically on M1 Air?
 
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Can't change the wallpaper to custom graphics... added a folder, but regardless of which photo I choose, all I get is the dynamic yellow flower thing... I can change to other baked in graphics, but nothing custom.
 
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I can't check or uncheck anything in Finder > Settings > General. Also, the hard drive disappears and reappears in finder quite often. New Finder Windows show: also does nothing, no matter what it is set on.

Installed on 2017 Macbook Pro which is Intel, I would hope its better on my M1 but don't dare install as it is my workhorse.
 
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well, I'm still waiting Apple fixes many bugs of Monterey, I guess I will wait until January to upgrade Ventura as usual..

One year seems to be a very short time to release a new OS, it would be great a pause and release a new "mountain Lion" no new features, just bug fixes improved performance on every Mac they are selling and minor upgrades.
 
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Upgraded my M1 Pro MacBook Pro to macOS Ventura. So far it's been smooth sailing. All my apps work perfectly, haven't encountered any obvious bugs or weird behavior. Battery life seems to be a lot better compared to macOS Monterey. Enabled Stage Manager and I'm really liking that too: changing between apps like clicking through cards. Response to a drag-'n'-drop could be a bit faster though.
 
How come we cannot change the width of the new system prefs window like with? There isn't even a proper full screen for some reason. I makes me almost claustrophobic (exaggerated) how squeezed everything looks, especially on things like the wallpaper menu. it does not even fit in the window! but you cannot change the width
 
contacos said:
How come we cannot change the width of the new system prefs window like with? There isn't even a proper full screen for some reason. I makes me almost claustrophobic (exaggerated) how squeezed everything looks, especially on things like the wallpaper menu. it does not even fit in the window! but you cannot change the width
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you couldn't in any way resize the previous system preferences; not sure what the issue is. there are submenus for everything, so all easily accessible.

and you can click on 'show all' in the wallpaper window, to see all the wallpapers in a given category.

can't imagine why system settings would need to be a full-screen app.
 
contacos said:
How come we cannot change the width of the new system prefs window like with? There isn't even a proper full screen for some reason. I makes me almost claustrophobic (exaggerated) how squeezed everything looks, especially on things like the wallpaper menu. it does not even fit in the window! but you cannot change the width
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I have been agreeing with this too. While I like Settings better than Prefrences, it doesn't seem macOSy because of the scaling. However, you can suggest it by typing
Code: 
applefeedback://
in Safari, Press return, then opening Feedback Assistant.
 
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macOS ventura needs a lot of ram memory and very badly redistributes ram memory which is no longer used
Just like Monterey?
Big Sur 4 GB /16
Ventura 12GB/16
With safari as the only application ok!!!!!
 
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yes but the ram consumption remains high as soon as safari is running, I found the problem partly windowserver 1.57 GB
normally it should be reduced, we'll see. Still, even 8GB is huge, I installed it recently, I'm waiting to see what happens next.
If ventura is already in Beta 13.1 it's no coincidence Apple delivers the bones too quickly from Monterey, for me the best version and macOS Big Sur. 11.7
 

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I've already posted this on another thread, but here it goes.
Don't know if this is as Apple intended or a bug, but anyone noticed that the date formats are now limited to the ones Apple decides to allow us?
In previous versions of Mac OS, including Monterey, anyone could customize the date formats, including choosing separators for dates, like in short date formats. I used the forma DD.MM.YYYY, for example.
Now in Ventura, the only options for Portugal are DD/MM/YYYY or YYYY-MM-DD.
As fase as I know, this varies from country to country, and for Germany, the format I used is available.
Does this make any sense to you?
 
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7422736m said:
I've already posted this on another thread, but here it goes.
Don't know if this is as Apple intended or a bug, but anyone noticed that the date formats are now limited to the ones Apple decides to allow us?
In previous versions of Mac OS, including Monterey, anyone could customize the date formats, including choosing separators for dates, like in short date formats. I used the forma DD.MM.YYYY, for example.
Now in Ventura, the only options for Portugal are DD/MM/YYYY or YYYY-MM-DD.
As fase as I know, this varies from country to country, and for Germany, the format I used is available.
Does this make any sense to you?
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Personally I think this makes sense. Imagine some cluttered ones...

However, I believe it is still possible to change it to a custom one in Terminal.
 
So, I found one little thing in Ventura I am very disappointed about :

Up until Monterey, if I wanted to share a document via AirDrop all I had to do was right click on the file, point to "Share" and then a sub-menu with options, like AirDrop, would open.
Now on Ventura, there's no sub-menu opening, I have to click on "Share" and then a new window pops up with the exact same entries as before.

I find this new behaviour to share a document
way slower than the previous one.

 
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Squillace said:
So, I found one little thing in Ventura I am very disappointed about :

Up until Monterey, if I wanted to share a document via AirDrop all I had to do was right click on the file, point to "Share" and then a sub-menu with options, like AirDrop, would open.
Now on Ventura, there's no sub-menu opening, I have to click on "Share" and then a new window pops up with the exact same entries as before.

I find this new behaviour to share a document
way slower than the previous one.

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Yeah unfortunately Apple wants behaviors to be similar to iOS.
 
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