LOL, if Apple doesn't use the Xeon in the next MacPro update, they could use an overclocked C2X on Nov.11...or we could see this CPU in an all new Octo iMac come Nov.11 . Cool, or should I say 'that's hot', a TOL 24in iMac that could keep up with a MacPro in CPU performance...with a screamer of a fan blowing/on turbo mode 100% of the time. http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20070928PD207.html http://www.electronista.com/articles/07/09/28/intel.penryn.nov.11/ Of course, I (not we) don't really care about the MacPro or the iMac, since I won't be buying/using one of them. Electronista seems to have incorrect info on the Mobile Penryn however. Monteviña platform Penryn's probably won't ship until summer '08, so surely a Santa Rosa updated MBP with Mobile Penryn will ship long before then, fingers crossed for a 17in LED baclit screen too.