Yes, sometimes. There's a site I visit named lowendmac.com which lists new, refurb, and used deals on Apple every week. Then there are a couple small discounters like SmallDog and PowerMax that sell refurbs fairly often, and they don't charge sales tax. I got my last PBG4 from SmallDog and the one before it from PowerMax. Not only are the prices better, but the service is good too and they will sell RAM at reasonable prices.
Tristan and fellow Mac Users: I have purchased a refurbished 20 inch 2.16 ghz IMAC for "1,347.97 cents" I thought about what everyone said and I decided that Apple's refurbished computers are a really great deal. I figure it's fast enough and it's affordable for me. I couldn't bring myself in purchasing a heavy duty professional model like the MacPro.
I weighed all the options and realized this is a great deal for a fairly new computer. Granted it's not the newest model or the most loaded computer. But it's midrange high quality computer and I figure 20 inch monitor is plenty for my residence. I didn't want to have to pay in blood.
I want to thank everyone who helped me in this decision and weighed my options. I realized once again a computer is a computer. It doesn't limit you creatively if you don't have Twice the amount of gigabyte as everyone.
I think now I have to decide on AppleSupport which I will purchase in a month or so.
Now I have to do the daunting task of taking all bookmarks and saving them. Because this hard drive is really infected with spyware in the applications. So I am just going to take the bookmarks and the music with me I think.
5 years later after getting this p.c. and the P.C. dynasty I feel is done. I've been on P.C.'s since 1992. Now let's consider one thing. I was a P.C. user for life. Before that I had Apple II C computer. I have only used Mac for 2 minutes and that was enough for me. I don't use that many Windows applications. And P.C. has just made too many wrong choices.
If this isn't a sign of the tide turning, I don't know what is. For me not to go to P.c. it has to be a few good reasons. And those reasons are
1) Vista has too many security holes
2) I can't trust Vista's reliability
3) The Spyware is out of control
4) The sites I surf on have mucho spyware and viruses
5) Nobody uses that many applications. And I have a feeling that this kind of burden on your computer slows it down immensely on a P.C. It's just ridiculous and I feel it's just going to get worse as time progresses.
My only concern is application like "RAR" I hear stuffit software takes care of that. Applications like this concern me because I download alot of media and I hope it all converts fairly well.
So, Apple has done wonderous things. I can only hope I don't have a bad beginning introduction with my IMAC. I will keep people posted on the first few weeks. Thanks again to those who shared their input. And Macpro users no hard feelings, I just can't make a committment of that much money. And without financial assistance (because I only have a debit/credit card) this is the road I must travel. I do hope that the IMAC 2.33 ghz doesn't make that much of a difference than mine. So the decision was made and I realized I better just get the machine because who knows when another refurbished IMAC is going to be up at a particular time on the Apple site. I might just miss it when I am asleep.
Thanks again Mac community