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Re: Re: Re: music

Originally posted by jelloshotsrule
too bad his idea of counter establishment is sexual assault and things of that sort... but freaky stuff. that's definitely what he is.
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Sexual assault...now that's a new one...

I was referring to his stance on religion as mind control and the lack of independant thought...

[Edit] For those iPod users out there, I've started a new thread called "What's on your iPod?". Check it out:
https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php3?threadid=3808
 
Originally posted by King Cobra
However, there is some level of profanity and graphic language that goes too far. My father let me listen to his copy of EMINEM...terrible! The profanity and extremely graphic sounds were beyond what I could handle.
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Your father listens to Eminem? Wow! My father listens to Celine Dion. :)
 
Re: Re: music

In regards to rock 'n roll I think John Melloncamp is a good, if not ageing, example of "old school" rock 'n roll.

Originally posted by Rower_CPU


Yeah...he's a slightly different case...I actually like his lyrics for their uniqueness and counter establishment themes...

And it's fun to listen to freaky stuff now and then! :D
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And I'm not meaning to hijack this thread into an MM debate, but here comes my 2 cents. MM is the current, industry delievered, "bad boy" of pop-rock. Mtv approved, he's kinda like N'sync's evil twin. IMO most of his songs are unoriginal rehashings of generic anti-establishment themes (anti-religion, anti-gov, etc.,) that lack any unique perspective and aren't the least bit provocative. But as far as being an entertainer/performer and business man MM is probably in a class by himself.


Lethal
 
Lethal...
You can put up the same argument about just about any band out there:
There aren't too many original musicians/bands out there right now...but at least MM is a relief from the "norm"...

PS. Who specifically do you see them as copying?
 
Lately it's been all about Fila Brazilia, Mouse on Mars, MM&W, Kruder and Dorfmeister, Boards of Canada and Autechre with me, I guess it all has to do with the chaotic tasks I've been working on.
When it's time to relax I'll throw on the George Benson, Cal Tjader, or this one Luke Vibert & BJ Cole album. Usually I just put it on shuffle all, it's like my own private radio station with a week's worth of unique programming.
 
I wasnt gonna post anything on this thread but all this talk of Manson and Eminem is just forceing me to state my opinion.

Eminem is a stupid corporate made wanna be ghetto rapper. His music has horrible beats and is graphic and violent in lyrics for the point of being graphic and violent. There's no more to it.

Manson same thing. KINDA. His music is good though. The songs have a nice beat/guitar. If you just listen to the music its very energetic and gets you moving. Thats what I want in my music.

So what I listen to for the most part is rock. Hard rock, Alternative, Metal, Classic rock, some big band, funk.

The Red hot chili peppers are my favorite. They mix all those genres so well. At least they did in the early days. Check out "the uplift mofo party plan" to hear on of the greatest most energetic and empowering albums. IMO

phew....that was a bit long
 
re: em and manson

i just don't think either of them have broken any new ground.

em's cd's sound great, but thats all dre. the actual content is just, well, too calculated to offend...

mansons got the cool stage thing but alice cooper did it first (and better).
music wise, trent and NIN absolutely ripped this genre wide-open. you want anger? you want angst? i mean, "head like a hole" came out in what, 1985?..... MM can only dream of being in that league.

i'm not saying they're all crap-just that what rises to the top these days is well funded and promo'd too death. limp biskit and flip records was the first label i know of that actually used legal "payola" to get a record played. fred's 15 minutes are about up.

it's just a rare thing( and it always has been i guess..) to hear something on the radio that makes you stay in your car long after the songs over and you've reached your destination-waiting for the dj to say who the artist was. :(
 
this, that, manson, etc

Humm... (Always like to start a post with an onomatopoeia)... To start with, I like any music that's not what i don't like. that's the best way to sum up my tastes. they reach into almost all genres for different songs or artists... Predominately i like alternative/pseudoalternative stuff, very reflective and heartfelt but with lots of rocking and sometimes breaking things. Old greenday (speaking of which, finally got a signature) and right now i'm reliving a googoodolls phase. that kind of thing.

as for eminem and manson... don't care for eminem one bit, surprise surprise... manson has pushed things a lot and for that reason i kind of like him... sometimes... the whole 'antichrist' image is a bit weak anymore, but at least he does it with some style. i like NIN but never really got into them, tho i love star****ers, inc...
which brings me round to profanity... i happen to think those words carry an uncessesary stigma, to me they're just combinations of letters. its refreshing sometimes to hear a song jam-packed with 'em, kind of balances out the fluff music. but to use them constantly shows a great amount of ignorance, so i'm not real impressed with artists that overuse them.

favorite song at the moment is Lightning Crashes, it's got quite a lovely message, and a good tune...

:)
pnw
 
Well, I listen to any of my 5GB of MP3s. I like them all. Just hit shuffle, and BAM! There's 4 days worth of phat toonz to listen to.

My favourite band in Bon Jovi, so about 1/5th of my collection is every song ever done by Bon Jovi.
 
Re: re: em and manson

Originally posted by 3rdpath
imansons got the cool stage thing but alice cooper did it first (and better).
music wise, trent and NIN absolutely ripped this genre wide-open. you want anger? you want angst? i mean, "head like a hole" came out in what, 1985?..... MM can only dream of being in that league.
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Actually they're protégés of Reznor...since they worked with him on early efforts and were/are on his label...
 
Originally posted by Rower_CPU
Lethal...
You can put up the same argument about just about any band out there:
There aren't too many original musicians/bands out there right now...but at least MM is a relief from the "norm"...

PS. Who specifically do you see them as copying?
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There is original music all around. But very little of it is played on Mtv, VH1, or on the radio (thank you Clear Channel:mad: )) The way I look at this is that there is musical art, and there is musical entertainment. The Backstreet boys fall into the musical entertainment catagory, and Dead Can Dance would fall into the musical art catagory. And of course there are musical artists that have become very successful and famous, like Trent Reznor (NIN), Billy Joel, Pink Floyd, and the Beatles.

I don't see MM as "copying" one person/band really (save for Black Sabbath on the song "Beautiful People") as much as I don't see them/him really contributing<sp?> anything new. It's not one specific thing I can pinpoint as much as it is just a feeling when I listen to his music or see his videos. It's almost like he's a cliche. I think that he does things just for the sake of being shocking. That's it. And that feels empty to me. I mean, NIN's "Closer" video, and Tools "Undertow" and "Prison Sex" videos are wierd, disturbing, and/or shocking but there is, IMO, a method to their madness. They do things that are shocking, but they aren't doing things because they are shocking. Did that make sense?:confused: Some MM songs I enjoy hearing if I'm clubbing because they have have the right vibe (but that's only his older stuff when Reznor was producing), but if comes down to MM or Simple Minds "Don't Forget About Me" on the radio MM will always lose. ;)


Lethal
 
hey beej

seeing that you're an aussie, i thought i'd mention an aussie cd i listen to just about every day--neil finn's " try whistling this".

when i'm mixing tracks ( always on my mac):) , i use the song "sinner" as a reference. it is one of the most superbly mixed tunes ever. if i work in another studio, i take that disc with me.

i've got 2 other aussie discs i'm wearing out right now--kasey chambers( i mentioned her earlier in this thread-but she's just soooo good) and flash in the pan( had to transfer from vinyl), obscure from the 80's....:cool:
 
Re: hey beej

Originally posted by 3rdpath
seeing that you're an aussie, i thought i'd mention an aussie cd i listen to just about every day--neil finn's " try whistling this".
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Ha ha :) Neil Finn is actually from New Zealand. See, we have this really strange relationship with New Zealanders. Basically, we hate them (in a fun kind of way), but when they get famous, we adopt them. And famous NZers seem to adopt Australia back.

It's a win-win situation; Australia gets some publicity and the famous person is immediately liked, because everyone seems to like Aussies (for some weird reason...)

The only loss is NZs. They lose their famous person and get no credit for them. But they're NZ, so no one cares ;)

Bet you didn't know Russ Crowe is from NZ...

Ah dammit, I just let the secret out to the world... :(
 
top favorites in order:

1)U2
2)Stavesacre
3)Rage Against The Machine
4)Incubus
5)APC
6)Collective Soul
7)Life Of Agony
8)Sevendust
9)Tool
10)P.O.D
11)Bobby Hughes Experience
12) Creed

others....

Bassment Jaxx, Crystal Method, Moby, Paul Oakenfold,BT, Underworld, Zero 7, Radiohead, Hoobustank, Fear Factory, Disturbed, STP, Puddle of Mud, Pitchshifter, 8Stops7, Jude, Full Devil Jacket, Rush, Common Children, Type O Negative, Breaking Point, Pushmonkey, Embodyment, Refused, Atari Teenage Riot, Better Than Ezra, Goo Goo Dolls, The Verve Pipe, Self, Black Crowes, Econolinecrush, Toadies, Cake, Sublime, Project 86, Alice in Chains.... more ...cant remember them right now.
 
Re: king

Originally posted by jelloshotsrule
the other thing that struck me as odd was that your dad had eminem! haha.

i have often pictured my parents, two middle aged white folk, riding in a low rider singing gin and juice by snoop dogg. my mom singing "rolling down the street smoking indo, sippin on gin and juice" and my dad throwing in the deep voiced "laid back" and they end it singing "with my mind on my money and my money on my mind" together.

ha. i'm just a freak.
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LOL!! I literally laughed out loud!
 
Ah... Music means everything to me, that's for sure.

Since I'm a musician and play and practice a lot, I don't really listen much to music. But when I do it's mainly jazz and progressive rock. Nothing's better than listening to Yellowjackets' harmonicly beautiful songs and Dream Theater's hefty riffs. ;)

Any other musicians here in the boards but me?
 
well since i dont have a mac yet...
on my pc i mainly just have classic rock songs (lots backed up onto cd for the future) and the bands i usually listen to are:
the guess who
neil young
crosby stills nash and young
bachman turner overdrive
U2
Pearl Jam
Rolling Stones
the Doors
Big Sugar
Steppenwolf
the Beatles
the Eagles
Pink Floyd
the boss
cream (and clapton)
and DMB (theres others out there but those ones i listen to the most ;))
 
I'm a huge Nine Inch Nails fan. I also like:

Marilyn Manson
Rage Against The Machine
The Crystal Method (the whole "Vegas" CD is *awesome*)
AK1200
Photek
Foo Fighters
Badmarsh & Shri
Default
DJ Shadow
Hoobastank
Nirvana

I've got 13.58 GBs of MP3s. If you want to keep ontop of the newest stuff from the alternative rock scene just keep track of the playlist @ my radio station of choice: http://www.themightyx.com
 
Originally posted by SilvorX
wow 13 gigs :O, i only have like 3 tops, but then again i'm on a 28.8 connection :(
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I knew I wasn't alone on slow dial-up. Welcome to my world! I am sure there are a few others who know what it is like... :)

I only have about 1GB of mp3s...the newest one I just got is rather profane and graphic, so nobody under 13 (enforced):
Stick 'Em Up by Quarashi.
If you can handle the profanity, enjoy. If not, do what I did and censor it out with iMovie.
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